Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-3.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2025 02:50:18 +0000 Subject: Re: Rewriting SSA. Is This A Chance For GNU/Linux? Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc References: <6BidndvG26Vec236nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com> <67f24275$0$11433$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <67f270ea$0$28481$426a34cc@news.free.fr> From: c186282 Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2025 22:49:53 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: Lines: 63 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-qFTZg3XqoFV3DIkc5xdtDhlXeGdjBgzhPcZUqt/35yARYIQIWAEgLaII4JhX01l9vpB278kQOQqxqh0!TfpB5BiXGLPvids8J94K7STqJty8QdNwhg3IrDl+wW1yd3aLIF3P9fd1HhyxIW9WzBQJc1t3zg5z X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 4737 On 4/6/25 1:38 PM, Richard Kettlewell wrote: > Stéphane CARPENTIER writes: >> Le 06-04-2025, Farley Flud a écrit : >>> On 06 Apr 2025 08:59:33 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: >>>> Le 05-04-2025, Farley Flud a écrit : > >>>>> No, but we can move to quantum computing, which may become >>>>> a reality before too long. >>>> >>>> I heard about that before I was born. >>> >>> In the US, the NIST is already researching algorithms for "post-quantum >>> cryptography:" >>> >>> https://csrc.nist.gov/projects/post-quantum-cryptography >> >> Yes, the algorithms are farther away from the computers. Doesn't that >> ring a bell? > > Not quite sure what the argument is here, but “already researching” is > severely behind the times. Multiple PQC algorithms are well past the > research stage, with finalized standards published in August and a > couple more on the way. Adaptation of higher-level standards (APIs, PKI, > etc) and adoption leading to deployment is well underway. > >>> Quantum computing is definitely going to happen. >> >> Yes, I know. Soon. Very soon. It's almost there. I heard that before I >> was born. > > I’m not sure anyone thinks quantum computing is “almost there” in the > sense of e.g. a quantum computer big enough to break RSA existing this > year. However the risk is real enough to be worth actively mitigating, > both because we may not know when the first one is deployed and due to > the “harvest now, decrypt later” strategy. Ok ... WITHIN LIMITS ... quantum DOES work. It IS good for breaking some kinds of common encryption (there ARE now quantum-resistant crypto algos - but beware spook back-doors). Alas quantum is VERY iffy and errors are still a huge problem. That may NOT be totally solvable, given the indeterminacy issue in QM. Wonder if it's possible to leverage one kind of indeterminacy against another as compensation ? But, as a 'general solution' ... do NOT see quantum as a mainstream computing tech. Big corps will RENT it, for big $$$, to entities that CAN make good use of the technique. Is NOT gonna be running yer laptop or phone. SSA/IRS ... as said elsewhere, "Linux" is too all over the place now. A commercial Unix is the better OS base. That's what Apple did, and what Big G should do. The replacement CODE ... either Python or, horrors, a BASIC with a compiler. Easy, readable, fair base of experts. Buy one of those big black IBM mainframe clusters and PARTY ON. Note that Plan-9 was ported over to those ... and it's designed for big/distributed systems.