Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: The set of necessary FISONs Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 21:23:42 -0500 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: References: <8a4c44c4ba0d3260a90d463acfa814fbc83f557a@i2pn2.org> <853f9685ed5be27fedb6486ca2931ef189b920df@i2pn2.org> <5aefc0d0b454a230e721a8cdb8400cb25ea9a8c1@i2pn2.org> <340761ab1ceb68741d949331a0c64a3d6d5fa237@i2pn2.org> <865ffa4c4c1091981c5b3b93ddf3dba690cd5ad2@i2pn2.org> <559d228c01ea290aec13e735ec85036862578165@i2pn2.org> <5220af0cb7d579f20d58809659d8dcb8d7ba046c@i2pn2.org> <325c90249ce4a619cc8a7f7b19b4884d12bc58aa@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2025 02:23:43 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="870737"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3061 Lines: 26 On 2/19/25 11:57 AM, WM wrote: > Am 19.02.2025 um 13:17 schrieb Richard Damon: > >> Name a FISON that can not be put into a set that is sufficient set, >> one whose union is the set of Natural Numbers. > > Every FISON. There is no sufficient set. If it is assumed, then F(1) can > be omitted without changing the union of the remainder. And if F(n) can > be omitted without changing this union, then also F(n+1) can be omitted > without changing this union. That makes the omitted FISONs the inductive > collection of all FISONs and proves the implication: If UF = ℕ, then { } > = ℕ. > > Regards, WM > Look up the meaning of sufficient. I don't think you know the meaning of the word. Note, your subject line uses the word you mean, "necessary", but you ignore the fact that a set of necessary elements doesn't need to exist. The fact that you can omit something, doesn't make it not sufficient. Also, you don't understand what "induction" does, it doesn't MAKE a set, it TESTS a set. Of course, it could be that in your Naive logic, you do things different, but Naive logic, like Naive Set Theory, is just incorrect.