Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Date: Sat, 10 May 2025 10:45:18 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 50 Message-ID: References: <87msbmeo3b.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <875xiaejzg.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <87jz6qczja.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <5b14da4260c0b7e3235ce05f752c092fade4d70e.camel@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 10 May 2025 17:45:18 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="7be348abb5bc2ec0a70724586a3ca680"; logging-data="3759298"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19OkNMfYXdZn8c5ZXyd8fHA" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:5JjVdqlYDzYEiw3anQ5tNWr54yM= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean In-Reply-To: <5b14da4260c0b7e3235ce05f752c092fade4d70e.camel@gmail.com> X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250510-2, 5/10/2025), Outbound message Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3527 On 5/10/2025 10:28 AM, wij wrote: > On Sat, 2025-05-10 at 09:33 -0500, olcott wrote: >> On 5/10/2025 7:37 AM, Bonita Montero wrote: >>> Am 09.05.2025 um 04:22 schrieb olcott: >>> >>>> Look at their replies to this post. >>>> Not a one of them will agree that >>>> >>>> void DDD() >>>> { >>>>    HHH(DDD); >>>>    return; // final halt state >>>> } >>>> >>>> When 1 or more instructions of DDD are correctly >>>> simulated by HHH then the correctly simulated DDD cannot >>>> possibly reach its "return" instruction (final halt state). >>>> >>>> They have consistently disagreed with this >>>> simple point for three years. >>> >>> I guess that not even a professor of theoretical computer >>> science would spend years working on so few lines of code. >>> >> >> I created a whole x86utm operating system. >> It correctly determines that the halting problem's >> otherwise "impossible" input is actually non halting. >> >> int DD() >> { >>    int Halt_Status = HHH(DD); >>    if (Halt_Status) >>      HERE: goto HERE; >>    return Halt_Status; >> } >> >> https://github.com/plolcott/x86utm >> > > Nope. > From I know HHH(DD) decides whether the input DD is "impossible" input or not. > DD has the standard form of the "impossible" input. HHH merely rejects it as non-halting. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer