Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: dbush Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Formal systems that cannot possibly be incomplete except for unknowns and unknowable Date: Wed, 7 May 2025 20:15:34 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 08 May 2025 02:15:34 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a565b5a0e22116f8f680253905402a9a"; logging-data="1407833"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19sID5S2l8Mjch+3yMWvEy7" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Ne6xvnvVxs0NojwiutKsBopKiqA= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 2798 On 5/7/2025 7:40 PM, olcott wrote: > On 5/7/2025 6:31 PM, dbush wrote: >> On 5/7/2025 7:26 PM, olcott wrote: >>> >>> When N instructions of DD are emulated by HHH >>> according to the rules of the x86 language then >> >> The subject was "DD emulated by HHH", not "N instructions of DD >> emulated by HHH". >> >> Changing the subject is the dishonest dodge of the strawman deception. > > > That you and Richard construe anything less than an > infinite number of steps of DD emulated by HHH > (according to the rules of the x86 language) > as an incorrect emulation IS MORONICALLY STUPID. > The fixed immutable code of HHH simulates a fixed number X of instructions of DD, the last of which was simulated incorrectly. Any number other than X is not what HHH simulates and is therefore irrelevant to HHH. UTM simulates X+Y instruction of DD correctly and reaches a final state.