Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: RonB Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Microsoft warns of blue screen crashes caused by April updates Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2025 05:01:09 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 41 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2025 07:01:09 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="57426970ab12ba5154d5839efd36de7a"; logging-data="1499918"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18nVO7X9KVEzhZcRIpY7YGj" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:948Jw21I6RnWuIEsHaH0usy72+0= Bytes: 3389 On 2025-04-19, CrudeSausage wrote: > On 4/18/25 16:51, RonB wrote: >> On 2025-04-18, CrudeSausage wrote: >>> On 4/18/25 05:23, Borax Man wrote: >>>> On 2025-04-18, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 10:14:54 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The desktops being roughly similar is only a necessity for users who >>>>>> were already old when they learned MacOS or Windows and did so >>>>>> stubbornly. Considering how difficult it was for them to adopt that >>>>>> much, you wouldn't want to put an entirely different operating system in >>>>>> front of them. For anyone else, a switch from Windows to Gnome or >>>>>> Cinnamon shouldn't be such a chore. >>>>> >>>>> On Linux, “different GUIs” is not the same as “different operating >>>>> systems”. Linux offers more variety of GUIs than all the rest of the >>>>> computing world put together. >>>> >>>> Wont the obsolence of X11 put and end to that? Many Desktop >>>> Environments and Window Managers won't work at all on Wayland, from what >>>> I understand. >>> >>> Only Gnome and KDE seem to fully support Wayland. For everything else, >>> it's experimental. That's part of why I'm not using Linux Mint at the >>> moment. Cinnamon isn't scheduled to use Wayland until the 23.x releases >>> which means that if you have a laptop and enjoy using gestures, you >>> won't be getting full support there. >> >> I'm in no hurry for Wayland. If Linux Mint makes Wayland the default, I hope >> I'll still be able to revert to X11 with a one line change in the >> configuration. > > X11 is not going to go away with Linux Mint anytime soon. The 23.x > release is supposed to default to Wayland as of 2026, but I don't > believe that they will ever remove support for X11. I hope not. I'm an old enough dog that I don't want to learn new tricks. -- “Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien