Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Fred. Zwarts" Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Every sufficiently competent C programmer knows --- Very Stupid Mistake or Liars Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2025 08:34:57 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 53 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2025 08:34:59 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="2309bdc4e851ad7a0f935340aeac3006"; logging-data="891976"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/6e8xCnK2qRItj0VE2K6Aj" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Zh/WXwI1hA626EZwKSjPrURDrdo= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: nl, en-GB Bytes: 3417 Op 13.mrt.2025 om 21:35 schreef olcott: > On 3/13/2025 2:20 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >> Op 13.mrt.2025 om 14:41 schreef olcott: >>> On 3/13/2025 6:18 AM, Dan Cross wrote: >>>> In article , >>>> Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>>> Op 12.mrt.2025 om 16:31 schreef olcott: >>>>>> [snip] >>>>>> When N steps of DDD are correctly emulated by every element >>>>>> of the set of C functions named HHH that do x86 emulation and >>>>>> >>>>>> N is each element of the set of natural numbers >>>>>> >>>>>> then no DDD of the set of HHH/DDD pairs ever reaches its >>>>>> "return" instruction and terminates normally. >>>>> >>>>> In other words no HHH of the set of HHH/DDD pairs ever succeeds to >>>>> complete the simulation of a halting program. Failure to reach the end >>>>> of a halting program is not a great success. If all HHH in this set >>>>> fail, it would be better to change your mind and start working on >>>>> something more useful. >>>> >>>> He seems to think that he's written a program that detects that >>>> his thing hasn't 'reached its "return" instruction and >>>> terminate[d] normally', given some number of steps, where that >>>> number is ... the cardinality of the natural numbers. >>>> >>>> I wonder if he knows that the set of natural numbers is >>>> infintite, though I suspect he'd say something like, "but it's >>>> countable!"  To which I'd surmise that he has no idea what that >>>> means. >>>> >>> >>> void DDD() >>> { >>>    HHH(DDD); >>>    return; >>> } >>> >>> Everyone here knows that when N steps of DDD are correctly >>> simulated by HHH that DDD never reaches its own "return" >>> instruction and terminates normally thus never halts. >> >> >> Why would we be interested in your simulator that is not able to reach >> the end of the program described in its input when direct execution >> and world-class simulators are perfectly able to reach that end of >> exactly the same input? > > I am going to ignore all of your nonsense posts. > As usual you ignore all errors you make, because you know no rebuttal.