Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Catrike Ryder Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Disc's without power Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 05:47:55 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 79 Message-ID: References: <4v232kpp5eovb4pkmgs2f2kidv7uq37m3n@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 11:47:56 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8bb534c0228b1e96093b6ab2f7a84c95"; logging-data="1090626"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18YxrUtHQJNii1Zlm/F4WQQWRV3MfDmkgg=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:Oz1KkIuLsFiBrfbfTD5GQXCXcb4= Bytes: 4828 On Sun, 11 May 2025 23:42:26 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote: >On Sun, 11 May 2025 23:26:26 -0700, Jeff Liebermann >wrote: > >>On Mon, 12 May 2025 01:19:01 -0400, Frank Krygowski >> wrote: >> >>>I think Jeff's right. The notion of cars parked at the curb in Gary, IN >>>but surrounded by forests of green weeds is pretty weird. So are the >>>forests of weeds growing through pavement in other images. >> >>Yes. What immediately caught my attention was how similar almost all >>of the 50 houses were. Similar sky, similar weeds, similar debris, no >>broken or boarded windows, almost identical road types, and so on. It >>wasn't obvious just looking at one image, but after skimming all of >>them, the commonality is disturbingly obvious. Putting all the images >>on one page makes it easier to compare: >> >>(click on "see more anyway" at bottom page). Some of the buildings >>look like they were made from the same cookie cutter template. >> >>>I do wonder how she got the fake images. I doubt a hack journalist >>>would do them herself. Are there people one can hire cheaply to do such >>>work? >> >>Yes. She designed them using one of several AI engines. For example: >> >>"Design your dream home with our AI House Generator! Create detailed >>house designs, from layout to aesthetics." >> >> >>More: >> >> >>I spent some time with several generative AI "drawing" tools trying to >>design a realistic bicycle. I got futuristic bicycles instead, but I >>think I could have produced something useful eventually. >> >>Go to Microsoft Edge browser and Copilot. Ask the AI to: >>"Draw a bicycle with the latest technology" >>That produced this: >> >>and this: >>"add pedals, headlight, and downtube shifter" >> >>The image is too dark, so I made it brighter: >>"brighten picture" >> >>Oops, I should have said "brighten bicycle": >>"undo" followed by "brighten bicycle" >> >>Also wrong, but I think you get the idea. > >Notice what the AI though "downtube shifters" look like. Hardly >realistic and on the wrong tube. Similar problems with pedals and >headlight. > >This is my first (and last) attempt to produce a run down >neighborhood, like in the original article. Amazingly similar, >methinks: >"draw a run down urban row of stores, with thick grass growing along >the sidewalk, some graffiti on the walls, and a trash bin in front of >one house" > >Notice the similar sky compared to the original article. >"brighten the buildings" > > >Starting to look familiar? I suspect such garbage will be quite >common, especially because it doesn't require signed photo release >forms. Most of those pictures look terribly fake. -- C'est bon Soloman