Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Zen Cycle Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: silca and Tariffs Date: Tue, 6 May 2025 09:59:46 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <5p9PP.2345993$FVcd.1513642@fx10.iad> <7suq0k9vovuuv8e3jabhhv7u108m262q7c@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 06 May 2025 15:59:46 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="3fa63a3af2f3debf049e6ab2198ffdae"; logging-data="3223638"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+k89eMXStXK8Ls/ZQQEOgtVBkdZC3aM4o=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:K2UKH/t5p289GMVBWv87TXO9x68= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Bytes: 2575 On 5/5/2025 9:36 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: > On Mon, 05 May 2025 19:03:55 -0400, Catrike Ryder > wrote: > >> Not salaries, wages, and yes the management went along with the >> demands, partly because of laws that forced people to join the union >> if they wanted the job and also the governments' refusal to protect >> those who wanted to pass through picket lines and work. It was >> government, management, and the unions. > > The closed shop, which required employees to join a union, officially > ended in 1947. Unfortunately, the unions found various ways to > continue the practice mostly by re-defining a "closed shop". > > "The US government does not permit union shops in any federal agency, > regardless of state laws." > The difference is that a private company or state agency can enter into a union contract which can restrict the company/agency from hiring non-union employess. In Massachusetts, labor law allows any employees to refuse to join a union, but the union contract _may_ still force the employee to pay dues even if they refuse to join a union. -- Add xx to reply