Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!newsfeed.bofh.team!paganini.bofh.team!not-for-mail From: Victor Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,misc.phone.mobile.iphone Subject: Re: My week with Linux: I'm dumping Windows for Ubuntu to see how it goes Date: Wed, 21 May 2025 01:39:55 -0500 Organization: To protect and to server Message-ID: <100jsfr$qjm$1@paganini.bofh.team> References: <1008i5i$f02$2@dont-email.me> <100b891$kn2g$4@dont-email.me> <100bor2$r9u4$1@dont-email.me> <100bvqu$sehg$2@dont-email.me> <100cqr2$2qqb$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <100drik$cac$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <100envm$1uh9$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <100eo5v$1gu86$1@dont-email.me> <100fmsr$1tn9$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <100ghbi$1sbnn$7@dont-email.me> <100h2ei$20iu$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <100ipqb$1q4f$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <100jm2k$in1$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 21 May 2025 06:39:56 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: paganini.bofh.team; logging-data="27254"; posting-host="vIdaFOKql7PmGPz/TS/dWw.user.paganini.bofh.team"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@bofh.team"; posting-account="9dIQLXBM7WM9KzA+yjdR4A"; User-Agent: Ratcatcher/2.0.0.25 (Windows/20130802) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.3 Bytes: 9827 Lines: 154 On Wed, 21 May 2025 04:50:29 -0000 (UTC), Marion wrote: > On Tue, 20 May 2025 19:50:59 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote : > >>> Samsung, for example (and Google) are on record (due to UK regulations >>> requiring a written promise of support) for 7 years of full support while >>> Apple has a measly five years of full support. >> >> That must be a recent thing because Android phones, in particular, >> seldom had more than two years of support before they were abandoned. >> This was the case with smartphones when I decided to get my iPhone 13 >> anyway. Apple offered five which looks poor compared to seven, but much >> better than two. > > Most people think Apple's support is the best, and yet, it's the worst. > Why is that? > > The answer is simple. > Marketing. > > But how many people are aware that astoundingly huge swathes of iOS > released code couldn't possibly *ever* have been subjected to QA tests? > > > Given it was proven Apple has never tested their released code, it's no > wonder mere teens constantly find huge holes in Apple's products. > > Why do you think iOS has the most zero-day holes of any mobile OS? > Instead of spending money on testing - Apple spends it on marketing. > > And people line up outside the Apple store as a direct result of that. > > Anyone who is intelligent has always known that Apple has always had the > absolute worst hotfix support of all common consumer operating systems. > > Which is why, for example, iOS is vastly more exploited than is Android. > > > Take the case of hotfix processes, where Apple only in iOS 16 finally added > the concept of a hotfix. Before that, there was no such entity. > > > > Or, take the case of number of simultaneous releases supported by Apple. > > > > > As for the number of years of promised full support, iOS is the worst. > *Apple finally confirms how long it will support iPhones and it's less than Samsung and Google* > > > Apple has always had the worst hotfix support in the industry. > But stupid people only believe the marketing. They don't know any facts. > > Do you think Apple is gonna tell them the facts? > >>> Worse, iOS has never had a "hotfix" process until the RSRs of iOS 16. >>> Can you believe that? No hotfixes? No wonder it's the most exploited OS! >>> >>> Surprisingly, it turns out Apple was forced to admit last year that they >>> have *never* in their entire history *ever* fully supported more than one >>> release at a time. >>> >>> And yet everyone else fully supports multiple releases simultaneously. >>> When you know the facts, you realize why iOS is the most exploited. >>> >>> The marketing doesn't ever mention the facts. >>> But all most people know are the marketing. >>> >>> So they "think" the support is the best - when it's actually the worst. >> >> That is definitely something to consider when it will be time to replace >> this phone. For now, it works well even three years after I got it. > > It was only recently that the UK forced all the mobile phone manufacturers > to state, in writing, how long they will promise full support. > > *Apple Commits to at Least Five Years of iPhone Security Updates* > "Apple has revealed its commitment to a minimum of five years of > iPhone security software updates from the date a device is > launched, thanks to a new legal requirement in the United Kingdom" > > > Just as Apple has the *worst* batteries in the industry, and just as Apple has the *worst* RAM in the industry, it turns out that Apple has the worst hotfix support in terms of many metrics - one of which is length of time. > > *Apple will provide a minimum of five years of iPhone security updates* > > > *Apple Reveals Its iPhone Gets at Least 5 Years of Security Updates* > > > *Apple commits to 5 years of security updates for the iPhone, but that's not the whole story* > > > *Apple says your new iPhone will get at least five years of security updates* > > > *Apple commits to minimum of five years of iPhone security software updates from the date a device is launched > > > Google (Pixel) and Samsung (Galaxy S series) are on record for 7 years. > *Samsung phones backed with seven years of full support* > > > *Google Pixel backed with seven years of full support* > > > Note that most people are so incredibly stupid that they don't know this. > They "think" Apple fully supports phones longer - when that's simply not true. > > Note that Google & Samsung support MULTIPLE SIMULTANEOUS RELEASES > in those seven years (just as Microsoft does). But not Apple. > > Most of the Apple trolls will tell you they got a patch for an old > phone, but that's like Microsoft issuing a patch for Windows XP. > > It happens. But it's not even close to "full hotfix support". > What's no longer shocking to me is that most Apple owners are > so incredibly ignorant they don't know the difference between > a. An occasional patch (which all the operating system vendors do) > b. versus a patch to every known bug in the operating system > > Apple marketing caters to incredibly ignorant people who are so > desperate to ditch their old device that they wait outside in > long lines just for the privilege of trading it in every few years. > > Notice how I said that. Each person has their old phone, which > could be a year or two old - which they can't wait to get rid of. > >>> They only believe what they're told to believe. >>> And they never question it. >> >> What we've learned during the rollout of the COVID vaccine is that being >> skeptical and asking questions is "anti-science." > > Well, I happen to be well educated in microbiology so I'm well > aware of 'what' the risks are and whether or not the thing they > called a 'vaccine' fit the definition of their own terms or not. > > On that point, did you see news released yesterday or today? > > *F.D.A. Poised to Restrict Access to Covid Vaccines* > > "Agency leaders said there was evidence to justify approval > only for older people and those with medical conditions. > Many others may not be able to get the shots." > > While I got the shots (since I'm an octogenarian), I knew full > well that it was decidedly NOT a vaccine - even as they call it that. > > I studied the coronaviruses way back in the sixties and seventies. > They haven't changed since then. There are only 7 known to infect man. May be all that is true. But Apple makes more money than any of them!