Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: DDD specifies recursive emulation to HHH and halting to HHH1 Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2025 14:54:35 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <3ade9e84224ba9b99c7363e0e9b69181804b7daa@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2025 21:54:36 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c6de87fcdac1591df8ecb20ec2568017"; logging-data="3759171"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18WG2BZ7o2h2KZq+AxhDeu3" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:iif5phhoPYwQm2tPr80Furc95oI= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250413-8, 4/13/2025), Outbound message Bytes: 3247 On 4/13/2025 9:46 AM, joes wrote: > Am Thu, 03 Apr 2025 16:57:43 -0500 schrieb olcott: >> On 4/3/2025 1:32 AM, Mikko wrote: >>> On 2025-04-03 02:08:22 +0000, olcott said: >>> >>>>>>>> It is a truism that a correct x86 emulator would emulate itself >>>>>>>> emulating DDD whenever DDD calls this emulator with itself. >>> >>> Which does not agree or disagree with my comment nor say anything about >>> it, >>> and it doesn't clarify any aspect of your statement that i commented. >>> If there is any indirect connection to anything relevant that >>> connection is not presented, leaving your response unconnected and >>> therefore irrelevant. >>> So you did not reply to the immediated context. >>> >> THE FACT THAT DDD EMULATED BY HHH DOES NOT HALT IS NOT RELEVANT TO A >> CORRECT DECISION BY A HALT DECIDER? > Yes. > THE ONLY RELEVANT THING IS THE PATHOLOGICAL SELF-REFERENCE BEHAVIOR THAT THE INPUT FINITE STRING SPECIFIES. IGNORING THIS IS DISHONEST, STUPID, OR BOTH. -- Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer