Message-ID: <679bec08@news.ausics.net> From: not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) Subject: Re: Brainless Cars - Honda Recalls Masses for "Software Error" Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc References: <76KcneAvx6BfRQf6nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@earthlink.com> User-Agent: tin/2.0.1-20111224 ("Achenvoir") (UNIX) (Linux/2.4.31 (i586)) NNTP-Posting-Host: news.ausics.net Date: 31 Jan 2025 07:15:52 +1000 Organization: Ausics - https://newsgroups.ausics.net Lines: 34 X-Complaints: abuse@ausics.net Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.bbs.nz!news.ausics.net!not-for-mail Bytes: 2147 WokieSux282@ud0s4.net wrote: > On 1/30/25 4:31 AM, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> But by and large it is that way, and software upgrades are so simple >> that the necessity of testing everything is somewhat lower. > > Um, not so "simple" if the thing conks out on > you in the middle of a blizzard or giant fire > evac .... A few years ago firefighters were complaining that the new Mercedes-Benz G-Wagons that the state forest fire service had converted to small fire trucks were limiting speed to 40Km/hr if their computer detected smoke. >> All cars have some quirk or other that is removed in updated parts or >> some such. >> My [automatic] car will respond to simultaneous application of the >> accelerator and brakes with a warning, disabling the anti-skid, >> rendering the cruise control inoperative and shouting 'Handbrake fault' >> 'gearbox fault' and one other which I forget. >> I have to reboot the car twice to stop all of it. >> >> Apparently there is a brake switch update that fixes it. > > Over-complication. Should be banned in critical systems. In your original case of fuel injection mishaps, the emissions regulations probably mean they're banned from omitting complex computations that work out the ideal mix to make minimum CO2, which may well have been the source of that bug. -- __ __ #_ < |\| |< _#