Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Tim Rentsch Newsgroups: comp.lang.c Subject: Re: Loops (was Re: do { quit; } else { }) Date: Wed, 14 May 2025 11:09:51 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 36 Message-ID: <86sel7ukr4.fsf@linuxsc.com> References: <20250413072027.219@kylheku.com> <20250415153419.00004cf7@yahoo.com> <86h62078i8.fsf@linuxsc.com> <20250504180833.00000906@yahoo.com> <86plggzilx.fsf@linuxsc.com> <20250511010917.00007702@yahoo.com> <86h61qzn55.fsf@linuxsc.com> <20250512161819.000023d6@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Injection-Date: Wed, 14 May 2025 20:09:59 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="adcc0210618ce5c814d2d263cc71a7bf"; logging-data="2774377"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19Gu4SXg4o+afx6jGSdNrjKHQcdORF9ypo=" User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:qvKONiPRYMel96IGF0AdFcF/gDA= sha1:H0M54pv3FU/Ef/XIrdo0I2IYi0o= Bytes: 3052 Michael S writes: (I am summarizing heavily in an effort to return to the main area of interest.) > On Sun, 11 May 2025 17:30:14 -0700 > Tim Rentsch wrote: > >> Michael S writes: [...] >>> [suggestion to keep for() and eliminate while()] >> >> [a mention was made of statistics given in another posting >> that reported a ratio of while()/for() of roughly 2.3 to 1.] >> >>>>>> [upthread there was a different posting, from Richard >>>>>> Heathfield, that gave statistics reflecting a ratio >>>>>> of for()/while() of approximately 3 to 1, IIRC] I did a more comprehensive gathering of statistics, using an ad hoc collection of 68 open source projects, ranging in size from just over 1500 lines to over a million lines, including two outliers with 20 million lines and 75 million lines. The ratio of while() to do/while() ranged from 12.5% to 2100%, with an average of 573.9%. The ratio of while() to for() ranged from 1.6% to 300%, with an average of 60.8%. > [...] while() does not help anything relatively to for(). I understand that that is your view. I don't remember seeing any supporting statements other than your personal reactions. My own experience is different. Judging by the open source statistics reported above, it appears that a fair number of other developers don't share your views on this question either.