Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: The non-existence of "dark numbers" Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2025 14:10:39 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <700c7b08f8c38d6604e202c012078556c536af93@i2pn2.org> References: <5d4e93233370e24f89417e1dd62b44763cbc47f5@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2025 14:10:39 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="822630"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 2489 Lines: 20 Am Wed, 19 Mar 2025 10:39:38 +0100 schrieb WM: > On 18.03.2025 21:40, joes wrote: >> Am Tue, 18 Mar 2025 16:34:21 +0100 schrieb WM: >>> On 18.03.2025 12:57, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >>>> WM wrote: >>> >>>>> The set of FISONs is an inductive set. But it is not ℕ because ∀n ∈ >>>>> UF: |ℕ \ {1, 2, 3, ..., n}| = ℵo. >>>> That "because" doesn't hold >>> Because you say so? That's not significant. Even if you can't >>> understand the correct argument, it is decisive: ℕ_def contains all >>> numbers the subtraction of which from ℕ does not result in the empty >>> set. Obviously the subtraction of all numbers which cannot empty ℕ >>> cannot empty ℕ. >> There are many such sets: N\{0}, N\{1}, N\{2}, ... > ℕ_def contains only numbers with FISONs. N\{0} is not a FISON. It contains only numbers with FISONs. -- Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math: It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.