Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Moebius Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: The reality of sets, on a scale of 1 to 10 [Was: The non-existence of "dark numbers"] Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2025 22:54:35 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 10 Message-ID: References: <9e0c7e728f7de44e13450d7401fe65d36c5638f3@i2pn2.org> Reply-To: invalid@example.invalid MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2025 22:54:35 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="bc10e6c2bb1bf7374b1ff7c48e11eb78"; logging-data="3487356"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+REGNXUIHHA1F0CYoBxexF" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:B0t6vVvLULFOvbAcQpMzA9S+odg= Content-Language: de-DE In-Reply-To: Bytes: 1922 Am 23.03.2025 um 22:28 schrieb Alan Mackenzie: > What is the "reality" (in this sense) of N? The "reality" (or rather "substance") of N are its elements 1, 2, 3, ... Clearly, IN\{1} has less "substance" than IN. Actually, the element 1 is missing in IN\{1} (in comparison to IN).