Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Roger Merriman Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Thoughts on industrial design Date: 3 May 2025 14:24:45 GMT Lines: 43 Message-ID: References: <9lm81ktsvsvo6suapvuhhbskias5vai64t@4ax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net tMlvRKWLkm+tllVeNXZ+iAjXaIQKUR5III7sz1AsbFzMst/uV0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:wwWuVA8z9sUxnAr8O/Rsg+C1kbY= sha1:OBOi1qegLt55+uAKgUM5bLll6hg= sha256:V/vVwqvXwGnAc4Qet0eoPzZ2RJGaYSZmUXVCM51KoiA= User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPad) Bytes: 3234 Frank Krygowski wrote: > On 5/2/2025 2:28 AM, Wolfgang Strobl wrote: >> Am Wed, 30 Apr 2025 16:17:50 -0400 schrieb Frank Krygowski >> : >> >>> These rides make up the bulk of annual riding for almost all members of >>> our club. The group on this ride were almost all retirees, and it seems >>> to be their main form of recreation. I'm unusual in that I have other >>> outdoor activities I also do regularly. >> >> There are bicycle clubs in Germany, almost all of them members of the >> national biycle club and bound to its rules >> >> ("Bund Deutscher Radfahrer", BDR), a member of the UCI. >> >> When our children where young, we considered getting a club membership >> in a local club for them. We lost interest when we where told about a >> strict helmet law: nor helmet, no rides - at a time when only the very >> small minority of organzized bicyclists in Germany and other European >> countries used bicycle helmets. > I wonder if that was before or after the UCI rule mandating helmets. Our > club still has no rule mandating helmets on normal rides; but I'm one of > very few who will attend a ride without the special hat. > > Cycling attire is very much a fashion thing! There's certainly benefit > to comfortable riding shorts, aero jerseys etc. for fast or long rides. > But the other day, one member led a leisurely 15 mile ride followed by a > wildflower walk in our nature preserve. I showed up in normal > lightweight slacks and shirt, normal shoes, as I'd wear to ride to do > some shopping, visit a friend, etc. Everyone else was attired as if to > ride 75 miles. > > Rather depends on how leisure it was even a fairly leisurely pace aka commuting my work has no showers etc, still makes sense for cycling shorts I found, and related is civilian clothes do wear out remarkably quickly certainly cotton shorts I found barely lasted the summer just commuting a few days a week. Plus for number of folks it’s just what they are used to! Roger Merriman