Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Distros specifically designed for children Date: 29 May 2025 19:02:27 GMT Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <100le5o$318dd$1@dont-email.me> <100ljn1$30vat$2@dont-email.me> <6831b9a7$0$8595$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <6832fab9$0$11442$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <10102st$1j2ov$1@dont-email.me> <10131ao$28rgm$1@dont-email.me> <1016dr6$1e7od$1@news1.tnib.de> <1016gih$355q7$6@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net UiXFIbenWEf+bX0bXA9L9gZiCmuhVPCvn3C7tj6wP+GzdLAyUM Cancel-Lock: sha1:dnAnNrqriBu/Smi0pp06tpKlIr8= sha256:xKaqX6Rv3h8FOFGfYVDjs+5NlCcAm+bFUyJYCr2I6Rk= User-Agent: Pan/0.160 (Toresk; ) Bytes: 2321 On Thu, 29 May 2025 12:07:32 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man wrote: > On 2025-05-28, rbowman wrote: >> On Wed, 28 May 2025 12:06:51 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man wrote: >> >>> I was reading some discussion on the Fedora forum for devs, about >>> removing X11. Linux's big problem, is that developers just don't >>> really consider end users, but themselves and their vision. >> >> Ubuntu 26.04 is supposed to be Wayland only. No more xclock! > > Wayland only? Or Wayland just by default? I can imagine that X11 won't > be part of the base install, but are they removing it completely? > > I'm sticking with X11 until it is no longer viable. https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2025/05/gnome-dropping-x11-support-ubuntu- impact It depends on how much pain Ubuntu will go through to support X11 if GNOME strips it completely. The last sentence in the article sums it up. We've tried the carrot and people are hanging onto a system drifting into irrelevancy. Break out the big stick.