Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: will.dockery@gmail.com (W.Dockery) Newsgroups: alt.arts.poetry.comments,rec.arts.poems Subject: Re: Dream Song 14 / John Berryman Date: Wed, 28 May 2025 03:35:56 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: References: <203a1fad-5c44-4234-a294-a59a81c3d63c@googlegroups.com> <2c6f077d-a0c8-46cb-978e-aef076235c61@googlegroups.com> <98b5c51b-734c-4bb1-9874-4e99e5b4ba01n@googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2226788"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="Vf9CM7g99yqfGvzEHTw0bhrjcIfvzYBBhUuRma0rLuQ"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Posting-User: acd0b3e3614eaa6f47211734e4cbca3bfd42bebc X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$yFbkvfBsrPLEfoeDdmmnsu5DmhIWZOUxP4BF.UY8CAM7P4aZV9UQS Bytes: 3649 Lines: 68 Faraway Star wrote: > Will Dockery wrote: >> Changes wrote: >>> VizantOr* wrote: >> >>> > Life, friends, is boring. We must not say so. >>> > After all, the sky flashes, the great sea yearns, >>> > we ourselves flash and yearn, >>> > and moreover my mother told me as a boy >>> > (repeatingly) 'Ever to confess you're bored >>> > means you have no >>> > >>> > Inner Resources.' I conclude now I have no >>> > inner resources, because I am heavy bored. >>> > Peoples bore me, >>> > literature bores me, especially great literature, >>> > Henry bores me, with his plights & gripes >>> > as bad as achilles, >>> > >>> > who loves people and valiant art, which bores me. >>> > And the tranquil hills, & gin, look like a drag >>> > and somehow a dog >>> > has taken itself & its tail considerably away >>> > into mountains or sea or sky, leaving >>> > behind: me, wag. >>> > >>> > *John Berryman* >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > { ::: http://vizantor.chez.com >>> > ::: http://www.amazon.fr/-/e/B00X62TXC0 }* >>> >>> http://www.poetryfoundation.org/bio/john-berryman >> John Berryman has been a favorite of mine for a few years, after the >> excellent critic Rick Howe compared my poetry to his, back in 1989: >> >> http://alt.arts.poetry.comments.narkive.com/lwAUsChD/john-berryman-comparison >> >> This is interesting (to me, at least). >> >> I came across this nice quote about my poetry which I will use, that was >> really insightful and thus a good help. >> >> "In style and temperament, William Dockery's poetry is a little like >> that of John Berryman - cf., The Dream Songs. A basically sensitive but >> slightly discombobulated... self, in the way in which a poet like >> William Dockery understands it, is essentially a myth." -From William >> Dockery's New Poems (critique by Rick Howe) circa 1989 >> >> https://groups.google.com/forum/embed/#!topic/alt.arts.poetry.comments/hCmeK1z1cj4 >> >> About John Berryman, from Wikipedia: >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Berryman >> >> John Allyn Berryman (October 25, 1914 - January 7, 1972) was an American >> poet and scholar, born in McAlester, Oklahoma. He was a major figure in >> American poetry in the second half of the 20th century and was >> considered a key figure in the Confessional school of poetry, though >> when he was asked about being a confessional poet, he replied, "with >> rage and contempt." His best-known work is The Dream Songs. >> >> And... so it goes. > > Cool back story...! Agreed.