Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-3.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2025 21:57:48 +0000 Subject: Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy References: From: % Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2025 14:57:51 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:128.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/128.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: AVG (VPS 250424-12, 2025-4-24), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Message-ID: Lines: 61 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-JOIiwG31KtwcVj2kx5WoE6Frov7kh6d1ezaTkZsHmgv7D5cOMUWvCoGIj2Sszi1Tu/EOxlY4VjjP87A!/SSnQa3e6OViMjGRJqGxSMMbDvWF05K57D1xM259ag3nXSukJOAP5hVVcGIszInG6p+cVF68rn4b X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 4082 vallor wrote: > On 24 Apr 2025 21:45:39 GMT, vallor wrote in > : > >> On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 14:04:44 -0700, % wrote in >> : >> >>> vallor wrote: >>>> On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 13:31:51 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man >>>> >>>> wrote in : >>>> >>>>> On 2025-04-24, RonB wrote: >>>>>> On 2025-04-23, CrudeSausage wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> By GNOME 50 next year upstream could completely remove its X11 >>>>>>> session support. >>>>>> >>>>>> Fortunately I can choose something NOT Fedora. If they go through >>>>>> with this, >>>>>> adios Fedora on the laptop I never use. >>>>>> >>>>>> Non-problem solved. >>>>>> >>>>> This was one of the reasons I left Fedora and went to Debian. I had >>>>> been tired of the frequent release cycle, and some of the politics, >>>>> but the fact they would be earlier than other distros in deprecating >>>>> X11 pushed me to Debian. Nothing against Wayland per-se, but it >>>>> breaks some X applications, and my Window Manager. >>>>> >>>>> The "developers" today are terrible, constantly breaking everything >>>>> all the time. How they feel it is acceptable to constantly break >>>>> peoples workflows is beyond me. Sheer arrogance. >>>> >>>> I stopped using Fedora when they were removing code from openssl for >>>> which they claimed they weren't sure about a patent incumberance. >>>> >>>> It wasn't just flags in the SRPM that disabled elliptical-curve >>>> crypto, >>>> they actually took the code for ECC out of openssl. >>>> >>>> I jumped ship to Linux Mint, and I'm much happier for it. >>>> >>> why >> >> Because when I realized Red Hat was telling the Fedora maintainers to >> remove code from openssl, that Fedora wasn't the kind of distro I wanted >> to run. >> >> I was also tired of using rpmfusion to supplement what was missing from >> Fedora -- little things, like being able to play mp3's. >> >> The closest I've gotten to Fedora since then was to boot a live version >> of Nobara, which was disastrous. Linux Mint "just works". > > Correction: I still have an old server running Fedora. But I'm planning > to decommission it, and I already have the new hardware for it, a > newer SuperMicro SuperServer. > well it jhasn't changed your usenet posts and how they look here