Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Zaghadka Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action Subject: Re: I don't understand pre-orders. Do you preorder? Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 07:16:06 -0600 Organization: E. Nygma & Sons, LLC Lines: 53 Message-ID: References: <20bcqjdfs1p5l88s03ujm97p1ljtqlqbat@4ax.com> <3focqj5ng2gd265kg2hu6c9r6qjdr7aes3@4ax.com> Reply-To: zaghadka@hotmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 14:16:06 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="cb4c2c239b258777f53395c6c14319a8"; logging-data="654870"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+QuIvNOtUH+GzLEYJWB/0fLrmgO7ehcX4=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:XKxDddd866jEUy7uCGvKElXu3ko= X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 Bytes: 3595 On Fri, 14 Feb 2025 06:03:23 -0500, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, Rin Stowleigh wrote: >On Fri, 14 Feb 2025 06:10:03 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 > wrote: > >>Zaghadka wrote at 19:58 this Friday (GMT): >>> On Fri, 07 Feb 2025 14:48:09 -0500, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, Rin >>> Stowleigh wrote: >>> >>>>On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 09:36:12 -0700, "rms" >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>>... but the Rockstar offering at the time was that you got immediate >>>>access to a particularly good horse if and only if you bought straight >>>>from the Rockstar store. That turned out to be one of the best >>>>decisions I could have made, because that horse had particularly good >>>>performance characteristics that allowed me to win a lot of PvP races >>>>in RDR2 online. Imagine the old motorcyle game "Road Rash" on >>>>horseback... it is a tremendously fun game mode (or at least it was in >>>>the first couple of years, not sure how active it is now). Horse >>>>racing was one of the best ways to generate in-game currency, which is >>>>required to have any kind of fun in the game and it is harder to come >>>>by in some games. So by winning lots of races I was able to build >>>>wealth in less time, and that made the game more fun overall. >>> >>> Hmm. I hadn't considered "pay to win." Is this a regular thing with >>> pre-orders? >> >> >>With triple-a, I think. > >I think the meaning of "pay to win" got lost in this discussion >somewhere. > >Buying from the Rockstar store in that case didn't cost more than >anywhere else, so it was be more like "be cognizant to win" >(understanding what Rockstar was offering from the tradeoff to use >their game client instead of others). Horses that were equally as fast >could also be obtained in game. > >So, while arguably a cheeky move on Rockstar's part, there was no pay >to win involved, and I certainly had no regrets. The online game of >that mode got more hours of my gaming time than any other game in the >last 15 years. > Ah, it was the same price. I misunderstood. Yeah, that's not "pay to win" at all. It's just clever marketing. -- Zag This is csipg.rpg - reality is off topic. ...G. Quinn ('08)