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From: David <David@invalid.invald>
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Subject: Re: Is Belief in God Rational? A Fresh Look at the Evidence
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2025 12:25:14 +0100
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On 03/06/2025 10:51, jillery wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Jun 2025 13:13:25 +0200, IDentity <identity@invalid.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 1 Jun 2025 13:03:32 +0100, David <David@invalid.invald> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>> I'd very much welcome reader's views on this recent article:-
>>>
>>> https://aish.com/is-belief-in-god-rational-a-fresh-look-at-the-evidence
>>>
>>> //What if belief in God isn’t blind faith—but a logical conclusion drawn
>> >from cutting-edge science and ancient wisdom?//
>>
>> "The first gulp from the glass of natural sciences will turn you into
>> an atheist, but at the bottom of the glass God is waiting for you."
>>   - Werner Heisenberg, physicist
>>
>>From a conversation with the Indian guru Mirra Alfassa, (AKA "The
>> Mother"), many decades ago:
>>
>> Q: Mother, can physical science by its progress open to occultism?
>>
>> A: It does not call it "occultism", that's all. It is only a question
>> of words.... They are making sensational discoveries which people with
>> occult knowledge already knew thousands of years ago! They have made a
>> long circuit and come to the same thing.
>>
>> With the most recent discoveries in medicine, in the applied sciences,
>> for instance, they are contacting in this way, with a wonder-struck
>> interest, things which were known to certain sages a very, very long
>> time ago. And then they present all this before you as new marvels —
>> but indeed they are rather old, their marvels!
>>
>> They will end up by practising occultism without knowing that they are
>> doing so! For, in fact, as soon as one draws close, however slightly,
>> to the truth of things and when one is sincere in one's search, not
>> satisfied by mere appearances, when one really wants to find something
>> and goes deep, penetrates behind appearances, then one begins to
>> advance towards the truth of things; and as one comes closer to it,
>> well, one finds again the same knowledge that others who began by
>> going within have brought back from their inner discoveries.
>>
>> Only the method and the path are different but the thing discovered
>> will be the same, because there are not two things to be found, there
>> is only one. It will necessarily be the same. It all depends on the
>> path one follows; some go fast, others slowly, some go straight,
>> others, as I said, go a long way round — and what labour! How they
>> have laboured!... Besides, it is very respectable.
> 
> 
> Arthur Clarke's Third Law states "Any sufficiently advanced technology
> is indistinguishable from magic." This might seem to follow the spirit
> of what you post above.  An important distinction is, while some
> people might regard technology as magic, there is no reasonable way
> magic can be regarded as technology.

Thank you. I have enjoyed reading the answers here! 🙂

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