Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.quux.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: AMuzi Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Thoughts on industrial design Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2025 11:56:09 -0500 Organization: Yellow Jersey, Ltd. Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2025 18:56:14 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="824723ea81cb4f5318a435870004967f"; logging-data="2359801"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX186JSzQFjFL6Y6WPGu7oXM7" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:adO0DvP5sJ0rk9Y6KaA+doQRs4M= In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2484 On 4/29/2025 11:06 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: > On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 08:13:45 -0400, Catrike Ryder > wrote: > >> As for shifting on a bicycle, it's strictly personal preference and >> not worth discussing. > > Interesting. I've been involved in Usenet discussion groups since I > was running a B-News 2.10 and later INN (InterNetNews) server in 1985. > What attracted me to Usenet, as opposed to BBS (bulletin board > service) type discussion systems, was the limited use of moderation > and the general lack of censorship. It was easy to recognize the > first signs of censorship, such as this discussion on what is > considered appropriate topics for discussion, such as personal > shifting preferences. Such discussions usually ended quickly after > the participants recognized that they were engaging in a form of > censorship. Please try not to become part of the problem. > > > +1 A current subject in the morning news: https://nypost.com/2025/04/29/us-news/mumford-amp-sons-alum-winston-marshall-asks-karoline-leavitt-about-free-speech/ The cure for 'bad' speech is more speech. -- Andrew Muzi am@yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971