Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Rich Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2025 21:36:19 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 45 Message-ID: <101t2kj$1pb8l$1@dont-email.me> References: <101ru18$1g9rh$1@dont-email.me> Injection-Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2025 23:36:19 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="cdd3da957cada22b3b9f378323a1a02a"; logging-data="1879317"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX184mqyLAZ6HaD7ZcDlvcBeY" User-Agent: tin/2.6.1-20211226 ("Convalmore") (Linux/5.15.139 (x86_64)) Cancel-Lock: sha1:2GHai+J5PLH1uK3GZG4ypbAHJgs= Bytes: 3386 Borax Man wrote: > On 2025-06-05, Rich wrote: >> Borax Man wrote: >>> So, what Desktop Environment/Window Manager do you use, and why? >> >> A somewhat custom Fvwm2 config. "Somewhat" in that it began (many >> years ago) as the default, and it has diverged since then as I've added >> tweaks along the way. >> >> Started out with Twm (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twm), moved to Fvwm >> (when it was just Fvwm) at some point when it offered something that >> Twm didn't (I forget what the "offering" was now). Then moved to Fvwm2 >> when it replaced the original. >> >>> Also, what do you think your choice of environment has to offer that >>> isn't found, or rarely found in others? >> >> Infinite customizations. One very useful tweak I made a number of >> years ago was to change the right mouse click on the title bar to be an >> Fvwm2 "RaiseLower" operation. The result is it gives the missing >> opposite function to the usual "click to raise" a window in that it is >> also "click to push down" a window. So what ever is on top, I can >> "push it down in the stack" to then see what is underneath. >> >> Another useful tweak has been to "force correct behavior" on badly >> behaved programs. There have been the occasional program (OpenOffice >> was one) that thought themselves too self important and did a "Raise" >> on themselves anytime the mouse passed over their windows. As I have >> Fvwm2 set to focus-follows-mouse without any raise, this miss-behavior >> was very bad. So a few Fvwm2 config tweaks later and I took away those >> programs ability to "self-raise" themselves. At which point they >> became properly well behaved. >> > I like the "RaiseLower" idea. I might implement that, as it could be > more useful than alt-tabbing my way through. Hence why I like this > Window Manager. Good ideas you see elsewhere, you can implement without > having to move out. I've found it to be a very useful addition to the "window controls" after I added it (a goodly number of years ago now). Yes, a vast majority of "options" can be configured in by proper use of the existing primitives. Fvwm2 is somewhat like the Unix CLI text tool set. A lot of very useful individual tools that can also be combined in unique ways to achieve an end goal.