Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!news.szaf.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!reader5.news.weretis.net!news.solani.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Physfitfreak Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.math Subject: Re: Do AGI-BOTS indicate Life After Death exists? Date: Tue, 6 May 2025 13:24:50 -0500 Organization: Modern Human Message-ID: References: <3KOdnWu9sLvD95n1nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com> <680A8874.236D@ix.netcom.com> <59-cnYvpirgesIv1nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com> <-NOdnWrsKaTUw4T1nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com> <3tGdnX7bXZmgoIf1nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 6 May 2025 18:24:50 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: solani.org; logging-data="351602"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@news.solani.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:NZscK0OXSap+mJeZUWSU2b9+lkc= In-Reply-To: <3tGdnX7bXZmgoIf1nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com> Content-Language: en-US, fa-IR X-User-ID: eJwNy8ERwDAIA7CVSjHmMg7EsP8Irf4Kp/EmGERsbLlOF5g2e++Dvi+UMo4WUm+lYYNqPzU+RxxfL7yTf7YPi+oXDg== Bytes: 7889 Lines: 172 On 5/6/25 11:47 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote: > On 05/05/2025 08:32 PM, Physfitfreak wrote: >> On 5/5/25 7:56 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote: >>> On 05/05/2025 09:23 AM, Physfitfreak wrote: >>>> On 5/4/25 5:10 PM, Physfitfreak wrote: >>>>> On 5/4/25 3:04 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote: >>>>>> On 05/04/2025 11:58 AM, Physfitfreak wrote: >>>>>>> On 5/3/25 9:51 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote: >>>>>>>> That the meso-Americans and Mediterraneans were connected >>>>>>>> by the Atlanteans in the ante-Deluvean Bronze Age cross-Atlantic >>>>>>>> Bronze Age trade, circa 5000-10000 BC, and that the meso-Americans >>>>>>>> and Mediterreans share both languages and scripts and pyramids >>>>>>>> and as from the trail from Peru as with regards to the separate >>>>>>>> Northern population what is of the red, yellow, white, and brown >>>>>>>> peoples of about the Noachic and Vedic variously, is a bit lost >>>>>>>> in the mists of time yet definitely has that the meso-Americans >>>>>>>> and Mediterraneans have a cross-Atlantic bridge not explained >>>>>>>> by the Alaska land bridge, nor Micro-nesian island hopping. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Could you give a source for that. >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe you'd like Allen's "Star Names: Their Lore and Meaning", >>>>>> or something like on Atlantis studies. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mostly commonalities in the names and legends of astronomy, >>>>>> and as well the written scripts, then what most survived >>>>>> is Bronze Age artifacts, all up and down the Missouri, >>>>>> including to the Great Lakes, and not just around the Mediterranean, >>>>>> also pretty much all the coast of Europe, Bronze Age. >>>>>> >>>>>> There are archaeological discoveries about the scripts and >>>>>> cultures and artifacts and what could not simply be coincidence. >>>>>> More than merely the pyramids. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Allen's "Star Names" helps explore the world-wide commonalities, >>>>>> since the pre-historical, and various studies of Bronze Age >>>>>> of the pre-historical, yet archaeologically evident in crafts >>>>>> and particularly scripts, and in language. >>>>>> >>>>>> Mostly Bronze Age artifacts, and particularly surviving elements >>>>>> of scripts, besides things like the pyramid builders. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> People these days can't see much of stars on the sky or celestial >>>>>> objects, yet since antiquity it was the common open book, >>>>>> and the names and stories are remarkably common in all cultures. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Not my business and not relevant here: that mathematics and >>>>>> natural science though is also common since antiquity, and >>>>>> the premier theories of the day are a remarkable combination >>>>>> of profound depth of data and a too-severe abstraction, >>>>>> and periods of destruction, vandalism, and appropriation. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I downloaded the book. A large book written in 1800's !... I'm not >>>>> that sure it doesn't miss a ton of newer facts known since. But I'll >>>>> give it a try reading it. If you didn't see me on usenet, I've been >>>>> reading this book. Kosmanson is an exception though. Kosmanson rules >>>>> my usenet activity for now. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> No. Too old. >>>> >>>> One of those books that I'd read only if I'm incarcerated, with no >>>> other >>>> book whatsoever within reach. >>>> >>>> There has to be a newer better book on the subject. Better thought >>>> over. >>>> Better researched. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> That's the one there is. >>> >>> I'm pretty sure that one's the best in class. >>> >>> (All the historical names of the stars, and about stories >>> about, for example, the Pleiades, a survey of the visible sky.) >>> >>> It's not meant to be something like Herschel's catalog >>> or all of Messier's objects. >>> >>> Is that a, usual condition? >>> >>> >>> Why don't you just read ads abs? >>> https://adsabs.harvard.edu/ads_abstracts.html >>> >>> >>> >>> Do AGI-BOTS ponder the ineffable?  Yeah, they may. >>> >>> >> >> >> How the hell did you even find this book? Do you inherit an underground >> library below your house where you still keep your great grandfather's >> books in? How can one come across this book in a logical way? >> >> Did you swipe it in the Vatican? >> >> Hehe :) I'm not being silly. >> >> > > I found that edition at a book store, or perhaps book fair. > > I've collected about a ton of books, thousands and thousands. > > I'm pretty discriminating, not discriminatory/incriminatory, > in what I think is a good book. > > (I haven't bought anything on-line, at all, since about > ten years, though, acquired several thousands volumes books.) > > The book-collecting is sort of a lifetime pastime. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_collecting > > I found it from looking for good books. > > > One time Carl Sagan wrote a book, and in it, > he wrote, that besides the cranial capacity, > the only reason humans have intelligence, is books. > > Of course he probably said that a bunch of times. > > A usual practiced reader's reading is on the order > of ten-infinity times as fast as the maximum rate > of the spoken word. > > > Try spending a few days in a university library, > it's called learning something. > > > I suppose it's like the idea of "the royal road to > geometry", whether there's a royal road, i.e., an > easy way, to geometry. > > There is: the long way to the top. > > I read some more of it. It is not a bad book, but I want something better. I cannot evaluate his remarks from Roman and Greek sources cause I don't have the knowledge required. But many of his remarks on "Arab" sources are not accurate. That's what changed my mind. It is as if you've created a project for a large number of high-schoolers to go find anything they can about that subject and pile all of them up into this book. The volume of the material is great, but the depth of knowledge, in some cases I saw in as little of it I read, is that of a high-schooler's. Very naive. Very innocent. I want something better than that. I _would_ read it. But in a maximum security prison :-) ========== REMAINDER OF ARTICLE TRUNCATED ==========