Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: New WiFi adapter Date: 4 Jun 2025 20:21:41 GMT Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <7lcirjdmt6b37pcs0821d0l1jmoclrrhva@4ax.com> <9ludnRRB-JRx6ST6nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com> <101m75b$3s8f3$1@dont-email.me> <3cudnTmwy_61S6L1nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com> <101q7rs$10u8n$3@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net /53bXVvpFMQlx/UfItL4rwA/t5PJkV9oke1+65JDM2HYq9vCel Cancel-Lock: sha1:ROAb9kLgyeJSjb0xz1JJjm4TrFQ= sha256:iCATbLqBZPDUdxcFxK0M+haGqaaqk+ZlfBW0jR6emMc= User-Agent: Pan/0.160 (Toresk; ) On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 20:47:08 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > 04/06/2025 20:37, rbowman wrote: >> On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 01:14:15 -0400, c186282 wrote: >> >>> Remember all the great IBM-PC/BIOS routines ? >>> Made it EASY to write full-screen editors. You had to have the >>> "Technical Reference Manual" to know all that stuff, however I did >>> have that .... >> >> And everyone felt compelled to write an editor... > > Fuck that. Wordstar had been available on CP/M for ages, and was better > than vi. > So when it turned up on DOS everyone grabbed a pirate copy. 'joe' > emulates it these days for Linux > Definitely. WordStar was bundled on the Osborne 1 CP/M I bought in '81 and hat is what I used. When I moved to DOS I used Brief which was designed to be a programming editor. The 'write an editor' think could be traced to the programming books of the day. They tended to use string handling in their examples and it followed 'Oh, I can write an editor'. I wrote cross-assemblers when they weren't available or expensive but I was happy with available editors. I did not use vi. Vim (vi improved) is a hell of an improvement but that was more than 10 years in the future. vi in most Linux distros is a symlink to Vim so many who claim to use vi aren't using the original Bill Joy version.