Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: dbush Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Refutation of the Halting Problem Assuming the Self-Referential Paradox is a Category Error --- Linz Proof Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2025 17:39:23 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 49 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2025 23:39:23 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="0137d90e990b2d35ee9d34fffa59920d"; logging-data="3236553"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+ZHvnRLEZFdzq9B8yA9GwJ" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:XdXhh4SJbskjuHtQ2Rts91KZ/iU= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: On 4/26/2025 5:34 PM, olcott wrote: > On 4/26/2025 4:30 PM, dbush wrote: >> On 4/26/2025 5:26 PM, olcott wrote: >>> On 4/26/2025 3:56 PM, Mr Flibble wrote: >>>> Refutation of the Halting Problem Assuming the Self-Referential >>>> Paradox is >>>> a Category Error in All Computational Models and the Mathematical >>>> Universe >>>> Hypothesis is True >>>> >>> >>> Yes and you are one of three people in the world that knows this. >>> You acquired expertise about this in about a year where most >>> people are indoctrinated into "received view" by mindless conformity. >>> Even Christ knew that people are sheep. >>> >>> The other thing about the Halting Problem is that >>> a simulating halt decider proves that the contradictory >>> part has always been unreachable code. >>> >>> When we apply the finite string transformation rules >>> specified by the Turing Machine language to the input >>> to the Linz proof >> >> Which starts with the assumption that an H exists that computes the >> following mapping: >> >> >> Given any algorithm (i.e. a fixed immutable sequence of instructions) >> X described as with input Y: >> >> A solution to the halting problem is an algorithm H that computes the >> following mapping: >> >> (,Y) maps to 1 if and only if X(Y) halts when executed directly >> (,Y) maps to 0 if and only if X(Y) does not halt when executed >> directly >> >> > > THAT IS NOT ALLOWED because that cannot possibly be derived > by applying the finite string transformation rules specified > by the x86 language to the input to HHH(DD). > In other words, a contradiction was reached. And because a contradiction was reached, that proves the assumption that H an exists that meets the above requirements is false.