Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.quux.org!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: gregorymorrow@msn.com (gm) Newsgroups: rec.food.cooking Subject: Re: Joan is making Shake and Bake Date: Sun, 11 May 2025 21:10:15 +0000 Organization: Rocksolid Light Message-ID: <0e4ec34f2a5a638502865da21bcafaec@www.novabbs.org> References: <67e45f98da8af2ccbc4c74fa896bd363@www.novabbs.org> <0b3071c6a884dfabe48327b82fa5c6f1@www.novabbs.org> <6820f22b$22$4127$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="4131426"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="x3QOwNU5QUUvrhrYjTQpLb8UrZNO5Hphcsc0zyawgLE"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$3E.Ob8xGzKzsOcsJ/bEgGeCrSw1tvYg4qcfSGxVVifti.n3cTPsiG X-Rslight-Posting-User: c37b0b244a7cebb25c4cd655889780917c66ff2d Mike Duffy wrote: > On 2025-05-11, gm wrote: > >> This is a $25 bottle of vodka [...] >> although someone is selling an empty >> bottle on eBay for $20 so there’s > > Greg, you make no sense here. I can sort of understand > the poorly-planned theft of the vodka to sell it later, > maybe on the plane to other passengers, but why > > (1) not just buy the vodka on the way to the airport? > > (2) would anyone pay $20 for an empty bottle? > > (3) are you into the sacramental wine-box again? I am a serious student of history... this is what I am reading now: 'The Second World War’s Masters and Commanders' - NATIONAL REVIEW/Book Review Ungated link here: https://archive.ph/sEb2H The Strategists: Churchill, Stalin, Roosevelt, Mussolini, and Hitler -- How War Made Them and How They Made War, by Phillips Payson O’Brien (Dutton, $35.00) "The world obviously does not lack for books on World War II or its major leaders. Yet such is the enduring interest in the subject that there is always room for another one, and the newest book by the scholar Phillips Payson O’Brien on Churchill, Stalin, Roosevelt, Mussolini, and Hitler as strategists is a worthy entry... [...] As for Stalin, he started catastrophically, aiding Hitler’s war effort right up to the moment it was turned against him... Necessity forced him to change... The postwar return of his paranoid style of leadership meant that he squandered what could have been one of the great victories of World War II — the permanent anchoring of the USSR as part of the dominant grouping of states... Instead, he precipitated the Cold War that led, ultimately, to the destruction of the Soviet Union... Churchill, in contrast, had a clear postwar aim: the preservation of the British Empire... Despite his being a great captain of war and doing everything he reasonably could to muster and preserve British power, the empire still slipped away... FDR was probably the greatest success of all the grand strategists in the ways and means of modern warfare... He bolstered the U.K. and Soviet Union with prodigious material aid, while at the same time he crushed the economic life out of the Axis with air-sea power... All of this repays our attention and is a reminder of how there is nothing inevitable in history... The choices and predilections of leaders can bring national triumph, or catastrophe and unfathomable suffering..." -- GM --