Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Dimensional Traveler Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_=E2=80=9CThe_US_Likely_Has_8_Years=E2=80=94At_Most?= =?UTF-8?B?4oCUQmVmb3JlIENyaXNpc+KAnQ==?= Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2025 17:37:48 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 74 Message-ID: <103i4oo$3305f$1@dont-email.me> References: <1031j5l$1hro$1@dont-email.me> <1036e3h$13knq$1@dont-email.me> <1036lq5$rru$1@panix2.panix.com> <1036vag$17htj$2@dont-email.me> <103ehlc$22rni$4@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2025 02:37:45 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f5f60d09ada5e216727ff9b7d1cb8cb2"; logging-data="3244207"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18NxKfhhyetztO7bPJHg787" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:1NhU8DH6K4ad1Mdt2meefxWJoBI= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: On 6/25/2025 8:59 AM, Paul S Person wrote: > On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 08:53:16 -0700, Bobbie Sellers > wrote: > >> >> >> On 6/21/25 11:57, Lynn McGuire wrote: >>> On 6/21/2025 11:15 AM, Scott Dorsey wrote: >>>> Robert Carnegie  wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Is the crisis because the OAS fund cannot >>>>> pay elderly SS subscribers due to the government >>>>> pilfering it, or is it because the government >>>>> pilfering has to stop when the money is all gone? >>>> >>>> The government pilfering is a problem, and it's been happening since >>>> Reagan. >>>> >>>> The aging population is also a problem, with fewer younger people paying >>>> into the system as more aging people are paid by it.  (And yes, higher >>>> immigration rates can fix this one.) >>>> >>>> Some people have made the argument that mathematically, if the cap on >>>> income was removed from the social security witholdings, so that >>>> billionaires were paying at the same percentage rate as millionaires >>>> instead of the same amount, that it would solve the current OAS deficit >>>> problem.  This is true, and it's certainly a good plan from any viewpoint >>>> except that of the very rich, but it's also kicking the can down the road >>>> a bit since eventually the very rich are likely to get paid back a good >>>> portion of that a generation later. >>>> --scott >>> >>> Higher immigration will not fix this problem as most of the immigrants >>> are uneducated and cannot speak the majority language, English. >>> >>> It used to be that we allowed immigration to the USA for college >>> graduates and English competency only.  We still allow about 1.3 million >>> people per year to immigrant legally to the USA, mostly family of >>> existing citizens. >>> >>> Lynn >>> >> >> Lynn you are buying the right wing lies again. Immigrants are pursuing more >> education than ever before... >> Most of the undocumented would not take those jobs that Americans would >> not take if they were totally able to deal with people in English. >> Yesterday the >> Father of several Marine sons who is pursuing the immunity due to parents >> of Military was arrested by ICE as he was doing the landscaping at a chain >> restaurant and they accused him of attacking them with a weed wacker when >> he was trying to run away. As usual with ICE they presented no warrant and >> were masked. He just had darker skin. > > Huh. > > I thought Trump ordered all people wearing masks to be arrested. > > So why haven't the alleged ICE Agents wearing masks been -- arrested? > > The excessive focus on "people who look like Mexicans" ("racism") has > been apparent for quite some time. > > As has their sloppiness and inefficiency. > > The effects of their efforts should be apparent next year at the food > store and on the kitchen table. > Or, its already being felt. I've seen a couple of articles about the disappearance of the lunch trucks (aka Taco Trucks) doing curbside business. -- I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky dirty old man.