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From: Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android
Subject: Re: ?Localhost tracking? explained. It could cost Meta 32 billion.
Date: 22 Jun 2025 19:20:57 GMT
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Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> On 2025-06-22 12:15, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
> > [...]
> > 
> >> The point is, whatsapp is closed source, it could be doing other things
> >> beside sending your messages. It could be snooping on other things and
> >> sending that data elsewhere. Meta has now demonstrated it doesn't worry
> >> too much about the law. Do you want that software on your phone? or are
> >> you going to wait for the next thing to be discovered?
> > 
> >    I just was in the UK for two weeks and the TV broadcasts are
> > splattered with commercials from WhatsApp, saying that your messages are
> > safe and that no-one, including WhatsApp can read them.
> > 
> >    Of course, commercials 'lie' all the time, but these would open
> > WhatsApp to some serious legal action (and fines), so until proven
> > otherwise, we'll should assume that WhatsApp is *not* lying.
> 
> I understand they can read them with a court order. Somehow. Maybe it 
> means they have to impound the phones first.
> 
> There are some corruption cases in the media now in Spain, and their WA 
> conversations are being displayed on TV all the time.

  That could well be cases of unencrypted WhatsApp *backup*, on the
*device* (i.e. private unless/until hacked) or/and on the *user*'s
Google Drive (same).

  By default, WhatsApp *backup* is unencrypted, but that doesn't mean
that others - than the 'owner'/user of the chats - or WhatsApp can read
them.