Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!nntp.terraraq.uk!.POSTED.tunnel.sfere.anjou.terraraq.org.uk!not-for-mail From: Richard Kettlewell Newsgroups: comp.sys.raspberry-pi Subject: Re: Just got a Pi1B. What can you actually do with it these days? Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2025 17:00:57 +0100 Organization: terraraq NNTP server Message-ID: References: <101teqs$1rt4d$2@dont-email.me> <101ulv2$27k2a$13@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: innmantic.terraraq.uk; posting-host="tunnel.sfere.anjou.terraraq.org.uk:172.17.207.6"; logging-data="167743"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@innmantic.terraraq.uk" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Gy9kbXri5fyhAnf+2LFtJukcccU= X-Face: h[Hh-7npe<v9!1Z&W?r\c.!4DXH5PWpga"ha +r0NzP?vnz:e/knOY)PI- X-Boydie: NO Theo writes: > My main reason to pick a Pico over a Zero is reliability: I can be > sure a Pico will boot up every time, but I find it a lottery whether a > Pi will successfully boot or whether it's corrupted its SD for some > reason or another and won't boot. I thought PiOSs was supposed to > automatically fsck the disc and reboot with everything clean if a > problem was detected, but for whatever reason this doesn't work - I > have to keep pulling cards and fscking them before the Pi will boot > again. > > Anyone have any insights into why this is? These Pis are getting > power pulled from them rather than a proper shutdown, but in the case > where they're sensors or whatever it's just a fact of life they get > power interrupted without shutdown sometimes. > > One of my Pis has OpenWRT which I thought would help the corruption > issue as it's designed for routers which don't modify their flash very > often, but even that's got to the state of not booting - I need to > investigate further. I’ve just restored a Pi which had been gradually accumulating filesystem damage (without any reboots/power cycles) over time. It’s not the first time. My interpretation is that commodity micro-SD cards are mostly designed and tested on the assumption that the user will be storing a lot of smartphone photos on them, not a live root filesystem, and accordingly wear out disappointingly fast. But this is just guesswork. -- https://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/