Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: How a True(X) predicate can be defined for the set of analytic knowledge Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2025 14:15:48 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <3cf0a34d9382774fd8275a118d1af8b0841c8eb1@i2pn2.org> <4fcdc85c3c241ccf5dae48e0812f51fcd5aee1d3@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2025 20:15:48 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="903255dca1ec11f9d88f63e6090ad436"; logging-data="583662"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19J7EO5Rv2FKu5gJu+nHsWc" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:0f55UAY9f/uWH5hF1NbE5oBYoY8= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250322-4, 3/22/2025), Outbound message In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US On 3/22/2025 2:10 PM, joes wrote: > Am Sat, 22 Mar 2025 14:07:17 -0500 schrieb olcott: >> On 3/22/2025 12:43 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 3/22/25 1:40 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 3/22/2025 11:32 AM, Mikko wrote: >>>>> On 2025-03-21 12:43:39 +0000, olcott said: >>>>>> On 3/21/2025 3:41 AM, Mikko wrote: > >>>>> Can you parse "It might be useful if it would return something else >>>>> that TRUE for some X, especially if that X contradicts something that >>>>> can be inferred from the set of general knowledge." ? >>>> True(X) implements a membership algorithm for elements of the body of >>>> human general knowledge that can be expressed using language. >>> Then it is Known(x) not True(x). >>> Sorry, you just admitted to your fraud. > No need to apologise. > >> It is pretty stupid to claim that Knowledge "⊂" Truth is an example of >> fraud. >> True(X) works perfectly within the body of knowledge that can be >> expressed using language. > But not for unknown truths. > Is it really that hard to understand that knowledge does not include unknowns? -- Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer