Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Last Doctor Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho Subject: Re: 3rd RfD: Mass-deletion of moderated groups without a moderator (rec.arts.drwho.moderated etc.) Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2025 10:53:46 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 78 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2025 11:53:46 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="44583f54e01462b94a654730add3b731"; logging-data="3551434"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+v9r91PDZT3WA+r+lZuJni" User-Agent: PhoNews/3.13.3 (Android/14) Cancel-Lock: sha1:PTNIe1gwOseO4zJULfo4lrn1LEU= In-Reply-To: On 15/03/2025 10:37, Blueshirt wrote: >Daniel70 wrote: > >> On 15/03/2025 8:33 pm, Blueshirt wrote: >> > The Doctor wrote: >> > > In article , Usenet Big-8 >> > > Management Board wrote: >> > > > >> > > > rec.arts.drwho.moderated >> > > > >> > > > These groups have long been derelict due to the lack of >> > > > a moderator. >> > > > >> > > > If any readers of this notice are willing to serve as >> > > > moderator for any of these groups, and have the >> > > > technical infrastructure to do so, they are encouraged >> > > > to contact the Big-8 Management Board by replying by >> > > > e-mail to this message. The Board is happy to advise >> > > > prospective moderators on the technical and procedural >> > > > requirements. >> > > >> > > let it go! >> > >> > Phew! I'm glad you said that Dave... when I saw that message >> > from the Big-8 Board I thought you might be the one person >> > here that would volunteer to become the moderator of RADWM! >> >> I was EXPECTING Binky to stick his hand up .... but, maybe, >> his High Powered ISP/NSP Business is keeping him too busy!! > >I really did think it would be something Dave might go for. He >probably has the right equipment too. Dave did go for the >moderator job when that group was first announced to counter all >the "noise" (word of the week!) here. > >RADW isn't busy enough now though so we don't need a moderated >group. (IMO obviously.) > >> > My view is moderated groups equal censorship and go against >> > the whole idea behind Usenet... so yeah, let it go. >> > >> Never having been exposed to one, I couldn't possibly >> comment!! ;-P > >Imagine somebody reading every one of your posts and deciding >what was acceptable content, or not, before letting it go >through to the actual group to be read? I'm sure moderation >works well on some Usenet groups but moderation as a system is >open to abuse as you are at the whim of the moderator(s) and >their individual opinions and tolerances. Moderation is another >word for censorship, as if the moderator doesn't like what you >say, your post gets stopped and doesn't 'appear'. So, censored! Oh, I think a little technical moderation can be a good thing. Imagine if this newsgroup permitted all messages that: 1. Contained 10 or more words of original content (A/I generated text,and large scale copy/pasting from other sources not permitted - a link, with personal commentary, would be the right way to go here) 2. Did not personally defame or attack another poster 3. Snipped replied-to content to a couple of sentences relevant to context for each point being made 4. Did not repeat the same catchphrases and pointless intersections over and over. For 96% of posters to this group, 99% of their posts would get through (once they mastered the basic netiquette of snipping for context!) As for the other 4%, well, he'd have to learn how to post properly or be forever silenced. -- There’s no point in being grown up if you can’t act a little childish sometimes.