Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: bp@www.zefox.net Newsgroups: rec.gardens Subject: Re: Bark damage on an avocado Date: Thu, 15 May 2025 03:25:43 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 43 Message-ID: <1003mrn$2ub7d$1@dont-email.me> References: <1000ojm$246ka$1@dont-email.me> <10023on$2gld4$1@dont-email.me> <10029hk$2hnki$1@dont-email.me> <1002egl$2hu6g$1@dont-email.me> <1003hlk$2pl9n$1@dont-email.me> <1003jn9$mmmp$1@solani.org> Injection-Date: Thu, 15 May 2025 05:25:43 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="00927ad7b143c142dcc22fb1ebd9edbc"; logging-data="3091693"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18FYBvP7bM0BikbJYnVGmH5ThTmUbgiTV8=" User-Agent: tin/2.6.4-20241224 ("Helmsdale") (FreeBSD/14.2-STABLE (arm64)) Cancel-Lock: sha1:EwPhNAGCLDmbMbt8SgEbjmwTxzo= Bob F wrote: > On 5/14/2025 6:57 PM, bp@www.zefox.net wrote: >> Leon Fisk wrote: >>> On Wed, 14 May 2025 14:32:20 -0000 (UTC) >>> bp@www.zefox.net wrote: >>> >>> >>>> It does explain the anomalous flowering, however. Still, it doesn't seem >>>> like a good practice for general cultivation. It's effectively starving >>>> the roots. >>> >>> In case you didn't read all the way to the comments... I found them >>> interesting, voicing some of your concerns too. >>> >>> Seems girdling would only be done on some branches, not the whole tree. >>> It would insure the grower that part of their tree would likely have >>> fruit this harvest season. >>> >> After thinking it over, maybe shortening the life of the tree, at >> least in a commercial context, makes sense. I've noticed that the >> nut tree orchards near me are getting pulled out and replaced with >> presumably more profitable crops. Sometimes with newer varieties >> of the same tree. It seems odd, but industrial agriculture is the >> model of rational action. > > Some nut crops are very high in water demand, which may be why they are > changing. AFAIK the goal isn't to reduce water usage, it's to maximize profit. The most common species swap I see is almonds replacing walnuts. Both use about the same amount of water per pound of yield, but the price for almonds has historically been higher than for walnuts. As a gardener I'm tempted to keep established trees for as long as they yield a normal crop. An industrial gardener has motivations that change much faster than the life of a tree. bob prohaska