Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Where Do GUI Errors Go Now? Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2025 01:01:17 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 16 Message-ID: <1025bot$5aur$2@dont-email.me> References: <1025bfv$5aur$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2025 03:01:17 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5752efaa82bad3e61c79f97a111f3c02"; logging-data="175067"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+4kobcZsRA/FsTHTRmqour" User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Vanxw28rrVZJC5E3L4pSvAli49I= On Mon, 9 Jun 2025 00:56:32 -0000 (UTC), I wrote: > But anyway, seems there is no equivalent in Wayland-based GUIs. Does > stderr from a GUI-launched app just get thrown away now? After posting that, I thought to have a look around my own system, to see what I could find. I checked one or two GUI apps (e.g. Pan, Konsole) to see where their process fd 2 was pointing, and in each case it was going to some kind of socket. What kind of socket? So I thought to check the systemd user journal: journalctl --user and yes, there is a whole bunch of random messages there, including GUI toolkit errors, just like old times. ;)