Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Thomas Koenig Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Keeping other stuff with addresses (was: What is an N-bit machine?) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2025 09:59:32 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 38 Message-ID: References: <20241128185548.000031c9@yahoo.com> <2024Nov30.072829@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <2024Nov30.123536@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <2024Nov30.175756@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <20241130193206.00005c49@yahoo.com> <2024Nov30.190858@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <20241130202851.00005eca@yahoo.com> <2024Dec1.102826@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <86jzcjo1uw.fsf@linuxsc.com> <86zfkbaj3n.fsf@linuxsc.com> <86v7uy9epq.fsf@linuxsc.com> Injection-Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2025 10:59:32 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="74bdbf1cea330ee16c71c1dd3ed0b6c6"; logging-data="3464926"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+8pDpk8/ZWUJ5GWf9FrBIfndY/6UzMcF4=" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:S8SyCcpC5pT0DTTaIUPglgI5y9U= Tim Rentsch schrieb: > Thomas Koenig writes: > >> Tim Rentsch schrieb: >> >>> Thomas Koenig writes: >>> >>>> Tim Rentsch schrieb: >>>> >>>>> Thomas Koenig writes: >>>>> >>>>>> I think "ALU can add up to n-bit numbers" is a reasonable definition >>>>>> for an n-bit architecture, which also fits the 16-bit 68000. >>>>>> It does not fit the 360/30, or the Nova (but see de Castro's remark >>>>>> on the latter). >>>>> >>>>> To me, the phrase "n-bit architecture" should depend only on such >>>>> characteristics as are defined by the architecture, and not depend >>>>> on features of a particular implementation. The 360/30 has a 32-bit >>>>> (or is it 64-bit?) architecture, but only an 8-bit implementation. >>>>> >>>>> If I may add a personal note, it's disappointing that postings in a >>>>> group nominally devoted to computer architecture routinely ignore >>>>> the distinction between architecture and implementation. >>>> >>>> I'm well aware of that distinction. >>> >>> I expect most of the folks who participate in comp.arch are >>> aware of the distinction. What I find disappointing are >>> postings that ignore or blur the distinction, so it's hard >>> to tell where one domain ends and the other begins. >> >> If you find discussions about how certain times were used >> in the past disappointing... [..] > > That isn't what I said, nor was it what I meant. If it walks like a duck...