Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Carlos E.R." Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android Subject: Re: What's the actual *advantage* of not having an sd slot? Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2025 00:40:22 +0200 Lines: 84 Message-ID: References: <1037c39$1aqs0$1@dont-email.me> <103897u$cpuv$1@dont-email.me> <1038cho$de5g$1@dont-email.me> <1038n4i$g0uj$1@dont-email.me> <103pnug$13e4d$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net +24jketlQlxfNCVhEmsWAARVECig316qQbFcZ8lX43s8v/3duu X-Orig-Path: Telcontar.valinor!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:wF0B3M0N3BQtuCfR048JETJJJ0E= sha256:gou8M0t4IlGYU6ivwFQrMo5moGK+M6taMmQVmi4WjZc= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: es-ES, en-CA In-Reply-To: <103pnug$13e4d$1@dont-email.me> On 2025-06-28 23:48, Your Name wrote: > On 2025-06-28 12:42:59 +0000, Carlos E.R. said: > >> On 2025-06-27 10:40, Marion wrote: >>> On Fri, 27 Jun 2025 09:23:02 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote : >>> >>>> Well, the phone came with a very fast >>>> charger. It has a name, but I have forgotten it. >>> >>> Hi Carlos, >>> >>> It's EXTREMELY IMPORTANT in the context of this discussion, to >>> UNDERSTAND >>> the difference between any old charger & the correct charger for a >>> device. >>> >>> As long as you get the point that having a "charger" but not >>> realizing its >>> output, is EXACTLY what Apple & Google & Samsung are relying on for >>> profit. >>> >>> They tell the customer "You have plenty of chargers", but they don't >>> explain that having a box full of 5-Watt bricks is worthless. >>> >>> If the correct charger isn't included, in the box, then the customer >>> needs >>> to purchase the "correct" charger to take advantage of what they paid >>> for. >> >> No. We already have the correct charger, it is the same one we used >> with the previous phone. Yes, the last three phones I bought came with >> exactly the same charger. >> >> Not including the charger with the phone makes the phone cheaper. > > Cheaper for the manufacturer, yes. > > > >> The buyer saves money. > > Nope, because the price of the phone has remained the same despite no > longer including the charger (nor an audio jack, nor stickers in Apple's > case). You have no proof of this. You would have to compare the prices of the same model with and without charger. The manufacturer has incentives for making the phone cheaper for the customer, which is being cheaper than the competition and selling more phones. > Removing the charger had nothing to do with making the phone cheaper for > the customer. Nor was it really anything to do with the "green" excuse, > even though it somewhat appeased the e-waste whiners - if that was > actually the reason, then the manufacturers would stop releasing a new, > slightly tweaked, model every year for fools with more money than sense > to rush out and upgrade to. > > The real reason was mainly just extra profit for the manufacturer's > pockets. > > > > >> And if he does want a charger, he can buy that separately, from the >> same brand, or a different one. He gained choice. >> >> ... > > Except you have to get the correct charger. The "wrong" charger > (especially el cheapo ones) can, and have, cause phones to be damaged or > catch fire. There are many correct chargers sold by reputable dealers. > The manufacturer should always include a correct charger for their device. I disagree. And my phones came all with a charger. I don't use them. -- Cheers, Carlos.