Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Carlos E.R." Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android Subject: =?UTF-8?B?UmU6IOKAnExvY2FsaG9zdCB0cmFja2luZ+KAnSBleHBsYWluZWQuIEl0?= =?UTF-8?Q?_could_cost_Meta_32_billion=2E?= Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2025 14:19:15 +0200 Lines: 59 Message-ID: <3fnailx8ol.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> References: <1om16wwki1x2j.dlg@v.nguard.lh> <102k0s5$pqa6$1@solani.org> <102kjqs$22q4$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <8a71ilxjqj.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <86ikkxncea.fsf@example.com> <9km6ilxkam.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <86ldpp5nz6.fsf@example.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: individual.net Uf0lT+PgtPbPvxn2Kth71QZpcupRi/zJbKI44RBnCyWOS8gPxN X-Orig-Path: Telcontar.valinor!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:9OFlXtk01w81voobNFuMFrIhfVo= sha256:EpieJZY6m6/87/B1wFyJ9k7Nd4E3tnO7Q6Zfz5xEBl0= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: es-ES, en-CA In-Reply-To: <86ldpp5nz6.fsf@example.com> On 2025-06-18 12:43, Richmond wrote: > "Carlos E.R." writes: > >> On 2025-06-15 01:15, Richmond wrote: >>> "Carlos E.R." writes: >>> >>>> On 2025-06-14 21:50, Marion wrote: >>>>> On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 19:57:41 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote : >>>>> >>>>>> I'm sorry to say that about everybody in Spain uses WhatsApp, even >>>>>> businesses. Like the Bank. It is what it is. >> Please ignore >>>>>> Joerg. He feels compelled to ROTFWL on every thread. >> He has >>>>>> nothing to add. He's a worthless despicable human being. >> >>>>>> Now... as for your point - I agree with you since I agree with >> >>>>>> anyone who >> makes a sensible logical statement. >> Even I use >>>>>> WhatsApp. And I care about privacy. >> So I'm happy you (and >>>>>> Richmond) brought this up. >> I don't understand the >>>>>> implications, but I can tell others that I >> use >> WhatsApp for >>>>>> two sensible reasons, one of which is that it's what all my >> >>>>>> relatives use on their mobile phones in Germany. So it's what >>>>>> works since >> calling them would cost me an arm and a leg with >>>>>> international prices. >> The other reason is the parents of both >>>>>> my great grandchildren use >> Apple >> devices, so everything is >>>>>> blurry without using something like WhatsApp. >> Sure, another >>>>>> messenger would work, but so does WhatsApp. >> Caveat in the sig. >>>> >>>> That WhatsApp has been affected by this security leak is still >>>> unclear. The author of the article I posted doesn't know. Facebook >>>> and Instagram yes, certainly. But WhatsApp promises encrypted >>>> communications are kept private, end to end encryption. Listening to >>>> them would be a major breach of trust (except with a court >>>> order). This is not the same with Facebook, which is intended to >>>> publish things. >> The point is, whatsapp is closed source, it >>>> could be doing other >> things >> beside sending your messages. It >>>> could be snooping on other things and >> sending that data >>>> elsewhere. Meta has now demonstrated it doesn't worry >> too much >>>> about the law. Do you want that software on your phone? or are >> >>>> you going to wait for the next thing to be discovered? >> >> I really do not have a choice in this. >> >> I know that it doesn't read our messages, and that is good enough. It >> will have to do. > > I am going to complain to the Information Commissioner's Office. But it > is a long process. I don't have any of the apps installed, but I did > once have a phone with facebook pre-installed, and this illegal activity > has been going on since 2017 according to the reports. Well, I don't have Facebook nor Instagram installed. One of my phones had it preinstalled, but I removed or blocked it at the time. In the case of WhatsApp, I really don't have a choice, and there is yet no data on whether it is affected by this "issue". -- Cheers, Carlos.