Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: The Lisa Date: 28 Feb 2025 10:57:31 GMT Organization: Stefan Ram Lines: 16 Expires: 1 Mar 2026 11:59:58 GMT Message-ID: <1981-20250228115440@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> References: <20250224075243.abbf3892667a0cf1313d1441@127.0.0.1> <8734g2voya.fsf@example.com> <878qpuk0m6.fsf@enoch.nodomain.nowhere> <87zfi9hzt0.fsf@enoch.nodomain.nowhere> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de y+WnsleBt399l/RPPvztDg8hzZR9M+LoBrdh/zNkl0+k8g Cancel-Lock: sha1:MczOZUfNtQk4/QVWOUL4VXTy7Uw= sha256:SrZtLAVoonmpem4bygJkUjRy7Z6O5aCyVi/Jv/NY5YU= X-Copyright: (C) Copyright 2025 Stefan Ram. All rights reserved. Distribution through any means other than regular usenet channels is forbidden. It is forbidden to publish this article in the Web, to change URIs of this article into links, and to transfer the body without this notice, but quotations of parts in other Usenet posts are allowed. X-No-Archive: Yes Archive: no X-No-Archive-Readme: "X-No-Archive" is set, because this prevents some services to mirror the article in the web. But the article may be kept on a Usenet archive server with only NNTP access. X-No-Html: yes Content-Language: en-US ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) wrote or quoted: >IIRC at one point in time around 1981, the answer was: >You buy a Lisa. The "Lisa Workshop" is the development system >for the Mac. The Lisa might have been used internally at Apple in 1982 and was released 1983. >(After a few years, Macintosh-native development system were >developed.) The Macintosh was released in 1984-01, and around 1986, the Lisa Workshop was replaced with the Macintosh Programmer's Workshop which ran inside the Macintosh operating system.