Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: RonO Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: Layer farms in Arizona going down with H5N1 Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2025 08:18:51 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 31 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <101ph3r$rark$1@dont-email.me> References: <101pgip$r1cs$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: rokimoto557@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="16941"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:pT4U1beyZxW8pshF2M3iJUcwPDM= Return-Path: X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id 212F222978C; Wed, 04 Jun 2025 09:18:59 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DBAD2229783 for ; Wed, 04 Jun 2025 09:18:56 -0400 (EDT) by moderators.individual.net (Exim 4.98) for talk-origins@moderators.isc.org with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (envelope-from ) id 1uMo1A-00000003NeN-0T23; Wed, 04 Jun 2025 15:18:56 +0200 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature ECDSA (P-256)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.eternal-september.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9FA3A60A09 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2025 13:18:52 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: name/9FA3A60A09; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com id 6B0E6DC01CA; Wed, 4 Jun 2025 15:18:52 +0200 (CEST) X-Injection-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2025 15:18:52 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1+VcpdgdjceK2NlL7E7vZxj7wdUEdnUV/Y= In-Reply-To: <101pgip$r1cs$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD,FREEMAIL_FORGED_REPLYTO, FREEMAIL_REPLYTO_END_DIGIT,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED,RCVD_IN_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS, SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED,URIBL_DBL_BLOCKED_OPENDNS, URIBL_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS,USER_IN_WELCOMELIST,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 smtp.eternal-september.org On 6/4/2025 8:09 AM, RonO wrote: > https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-influenza-bird-flu/h5n1-avian-flu- > strikes-another-arizona-layer-farm > > Arizona is known to have infected dairies, and if they did not restrict > dairy workers from working on the poultry farms they were just > tragically stupid.  The USDA is still refusing to say what genotype of > H5N1 infected the poultry farms, and have not released that information > since the D1.1 virus was found to also infect dairy herds in Nevada and > Arizona as well as people in Wisconsin, Louisiana, Wyoming, and Nevada. > They have known since mid May that they had an issue with poultry > flocks, and should know what genotype is infecting the birds by now, but > the USDA refuses to release the genotype information so that people will > know what virus they are dealing with.  The USDA's own report noted that > dairy workers from infected dairies also worked on the commercial layer > farms that got infected in Michigan back in early 2024, but they refused > to do anything to protect poultry farms from being infected in other > states with infected dairies.  California lost over 40% of their > commercial layer flocks to the dairy virus.  Arizona has just lost more > than 5 million birds. > > Ron Okimoto > It should be noted that the infected dairy herds are in the same county with the infected layer flocks. The first Arizona herd was confirmed to be infected in Feb., but it looks like they refused to restrict dairy worker movements again because more Arizona herds were infected in April and early May before these poultry flocks went down. Ron Okimoto