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From: AMuzi
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: Re: men in women's bicycle races
Date: Fri, 16 May 2025 07:43:33 -0500
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On 5/15/2025 9:40 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 5/15/2025 10:06 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 5/15/2025 7:30 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
>>> On 5/14/2025 6:47 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>> On 5/14/2025 2:54 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>> On 5/14/2025 8:48 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>> On 5/14/2025 2:52 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 13 May 2025 23:14:03 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2025 3:18 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2025 1:18 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/2025 8:45 AM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2025 11:29 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2025 6:05 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2025 1:33 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But Mr. Timid Tricyclist just won't let it go.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It allows him to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hide from discussing the current
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> administration's crazy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incompetence. What a dupe.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pick an administration. Any administration.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Select any of myriad
>>>>>>>>>>>>> examples of 'crazy incompetence'.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> USS Gettysburg shot down a fighter from her own
>>>>>>>>>>>>> carrier group (USS
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Truman) in the Biden administration in December.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then USS Truman lost two fighters overboard
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (one from sliding tow
>>>>>>>>>>>>> vehicle in April, one landing arrest failure in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> May.) in the 2d
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump administration.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.businessinsider.com/us-navy-
>>>>>>>>>>>>> aircraft- carrier- red-sea-
>>>>>>>>>>>>> lost- another-super-hornet-2025-5?op=1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> One never runs out of examples.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is each military mishap the fault of an
>>>>>>>>>>>> executive administration?
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd think that even the appointment of, say, a
>>>>>>>>>>>> low experience
>>>>>>>>>>>> drunken Fox network personality would require
>>>>>>>>>>>> quite a bit of time to
>>>>>>>>>>>> noticeably affect the competence of the world's
>>>>>>>>>>>> largest military.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Appointing an egotistical and inexperienced
>>>>>>>>>>>> cyber dude to pull in
>>>>>>>>>>>> other cyber dudes with no relevant
>>>>>>>>>>>> qualifications, to hack away
>>>>>>>>>>>> randomly at every possible government agency,
>>>>>>>>>>>> firing then rehiring
>>>>>>>>>>>> hundreds or thousands of competent workers?
>>>>>>>>>>>> That's administrative
>>>>>>>>>>>> incompetence - one example among many.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, yes, your term 'crazy incompetence'
>>>>>>>>>>> pervades governments (not
>>>>>>>>>>> only US Federal government!) in every
>>>>>>>>>>> administration. Hayek
>>>>>>>>>>> brilliantly wrote on the inherent failures of
>>>>>>>>>>> large bureaucracies, by
>>>>>>>>>>> their nature, well before key exemplars were born!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> First, it takes a large administration to run a
>>>>>>>>>> large institution, and
>>>>>>>>>> a very large administration to run a large
>>>>>>>>>> country. I doubt there are
>>>>>>>>>> any exceptions. And in any large administation
>>>>>>>>>> you'll be able to find
>>>>>>>>>> examples of anything - competence, incompetence,
>>>>>>>>>> stupidity,
>>>>>>>>>> brilliance. Isn't "we have one of everything" one
>>>>>>>>>> of your talking points?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That does NOT mean all administrations are equal.
>>>>>>>>>> The unproductive
>>>>>>>>>> chaos generated by unleashing Musk and his buddy
>>>>>>>>>> boys seems unique in
>>>>>>>>>> our history. I doubt one legitimate scientist
>>>>>>>>>> thinks Kennedy is fully
>>>>>>>>>> sane, let alone competent. And the "Hillary
>>>>>>>>>> Emails!!!" crew is giving
>>>>>>>>>> an astonishing pass to the signal chat leaks. I
>>>>>>>>>> could list more, but I
>>>>>>>>>> think the current administration is on its way
>>>>>>>>>> toward record
>>>>>>>>>> incompetence on multiple fronts.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you're defending all that, I'm curious about
>>>>>>>>>> your thought
>>>>>>>>>> processes. Will it be "Yeah, but Obama wore a
>>>>>>>>>> brown suit"?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The British Empire in the late Victorian era ran
>>>>>>>>> with a skimpy budget
>>>>>>>>> and a slim staff.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://blog.nationalarchives.gov.uk/uk-government-
>>>>>>>>> did- we- rule-the-
>>>>>>>>> empire-with-4000-civil-servants/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And Britain didn't even have a 10th Amendment!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Excess in funding and excess in hiring leads to
>>>>>>>>> 'mission creep' outside
>>>>>>>>> lawful useful limits. As we see.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> p.s. thanks for snipping my example. There are more.
>>>>>>>> Please! You of all people should understand the
>>>>>>>> etiquette of trimming
>>>>>>>> posts. Of course "there are more." I won't bother to
>>>>>>>> dig for videos of
>>>>>>>> Bush I saying "Read my lips: No new taxes" or Bush
>>>>>>>> II dolled up in
>>>>>>>> military costume to proclaim "Mission accomplished"
>>>>>>>> but we should
>>>>>>>> remember how those worked out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And about the size of the British empire
>>>>>>>> administration: ISTM the point
>>>>>>>> of the article you linked is that there really were
>>>>>>>> countless thousands
>>>>>>>> of people administering it. It was a very different
>>>>>>>> world in the 1800s,
>>>>>>>> far less complex and moving at a far slower place
>>>>>>>> with far simpler
>>>>>>>> technology; and the article seems to say that large
>>>>>>>> numbers of
>>>>>>>> administrators were at work, although perhaps
>>>>>>>> employed by colonies or
>>>>>>>> local government, not central government. You
>>>>>>>> certainly can't pretend
>>>>>>>> that any current major nation can get by with a few
>>>>>>>> thousand employees!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In any case, you've deflected away from my point. Do
>>>>>>>> you really think
>>>>>>>> the Trump administration is as competent as any
>>>>>>>> other one in recent
>>>>>>>> history? I don't, and the general run of experts
>>>>>>>> (including those
>>>>>>>> working for Trump's first administration) seem to
>>>>>>>> rate this crew near
>>>>>>>> the bottom of the curve.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The main qualification for hiring was, obviously,
>>>>>>>> fealty to the wannabee
>>>>>>>> king. That doesn't tend to bring in the best people.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Krygowski repeats what he's seen and heard from the
>>>>>>> leftist media and
>>>>>>> fails to note that today, inflation is down, the
>>>>>>> border is now locked
>>>>>>> up tight, illegal criminals are being booted, tariffs
>>>>>>> are being
>>>>>>> renegotiated, government waste is being lessoned,
>>>>>>> military enlistment
>>>>>>> is up, gas and grocery prices are down, and men are
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