Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Rich Newsgroups: sci.crypt Subject: Re: AI's take on my cipher... Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2025 20:18:56 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 17 Message-ID: <104ha3g$33b9d$1@dont-email.me> References: <1049c0q$10d0c$1@dont-email.me> <8d7c7d9307d4b388e11acbd6cc67497bef8a93a9@i2pn2.org> <104esqo$2fdr8$1@dont-email.me> <3e611d6e6188f4a2e1083eb67ae59cb515b78122@i2pn2.org> <104h7o2$32pna$1@dont-email.me> <104h7rm$32pna$3@dont-email.me> Injection-Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2025 22:18:57 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6597ebd4e3dd3f622e63f00e3da44e7f"; logging-data="3255597"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+3xXScX26JGOF5JT45Dgbx" User-Agent: tin/2.6.1-20211226 ("Convalmore") (Linux/5.15.139 (x86_64)) Cancel-Lock: sha1:PgnENf7p5ZN+S6tdwb3IzY4buIM= Chris M. Thomasson wrote: > Actually, it would be fun if they tried to crack it, akin to what was > done to AOB's ciphers. They got completely ripped apart! Compared to the complexity of your hmac cipher, the AOB cipherss look about as simple to crack as the original ceaser cipher (they were mildly more difficult due to AOB's obsfucation around "lots of integers"). That likely has a *whole lot* to do with why no takers on cracking it. There are few posters left here in s.c in the first place, and for those few who are left starting with 'hmac' likely moves the "knowledge and effort to crack it" level well out of the range. You really need an 'inside mathematician friend' at the NSA to take a look, but unless you have one of those at hand, trying to ask us to do so is just shouting into the void.