Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: How do simulating termination analyzers work? ---Truth Maker Maximalism FULL_TRACE Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2025 09:30:36 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 24 Message-ID: <104oiqc$t0u4$6@dont-email.me> References: <102sjg5$2k3e9$1@dont-email.me> <1047vld$n4s2$1@dont-email.me> <1048hp0$qd4f$2@dont-email.me> <66c00d5703907e846f537310dfb201485e1b7b2a@i2pn2.org> <10492eb$u8g5$1@dont-email.me> <104b5l9$fnl$1@news.muc.de> <104ben3$1hqln$1@dont-email.me> <104bt5h$1l1g$1@news.muc.de> <104bunk$1kcb5$1@dont-email.me> <104did7$hlh$1@news.muc.de> <104e164$2852a$1@dont-email.me> <104e6nd$12ua$1@news.muc.de> <104e93k$29rpg$1@dont-email.me> <104ed4k$223c$1@news.muc.de> <104ehua$2c91h$1@dont-email.me> <104epfu$nqi$1@news.muc.de> <104fdma$2n8gq$1@dont-email.me> <104fu68$rafj$3@dont-email.me> <104h4a5$324da$2@dont-email.me> <104ikfo$v7he$2@dont-email.me> <104jbvk$3jrpl$8@dont-email.me> <104lagd$13hr1$1@dont-email.me> <104lopg$7l4q$5@dont-email.me> <104o7u2$18h8g$4@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2025 16:30:37 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5e1c5002647e5c8eaded405aea18dbaf"; logging-data="951236"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18eoPsrjkSOA3ggF1r2Fzad" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:eeNMlxr0ya8AbuoeEXJxLdlf4s4= X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250710-4, 7/10/2025), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <104o7u2$18h8g$4@dont-email.me> On 7/10/2025 6:24 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: > Op 09.jul.2025 om 14:54 schreef olcott:>> >> One of these "errors" was that HHH cannot simulate itself at all. > > As usual you twist the words of your reviewers. > The claim was that no HHH can simulate itself correctly *up to the end*. > >> https://liarparadox.org/HHH(DDD)_Full_Trace.pdf >> Is the full execution trace of >> >> executed HHH simulates DDD that calls emulated HHH(DDD) >> that simulates DDD that calls emulated emulated HHH(DDD) > > And it also proves my claim that HHH did not simulate itself correctly > *up to the end*. > Exactly what is your professional programming experience? I have 20 years in C++ and became a professional programmer in 1986. -- Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer