Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: FromTheRafters Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 11:49:13 -0500 Organization: Peripheral Visions Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: <66868399-5c4b-4816-9a0c-369aaa824553@att.net> <417ff6da-86ee-4b3a-b07a-9c6a8eb31368@att.net> <07258ab9-eee1-4aae-902a-ba39247d5942@att.net> <1ebbc233d6bab7878b69cae3eda48c7bbfd07f88@i2pn2.org> <4c89380adaad983f24d5d6a75842aaabbd1adced@i2pn2.org> <7fc40cc2dbd42016a62aa0374d545e9e787a7da3@i2pn2.org> Reply-To: erratic.howard@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 17:49:21 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="0e93ddc3d69215c3f18088b31c86c531"; logging-data="750798"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+8iNONO+sjFR6PybFWYYmlZrDA2W8kNkI=" Cancel-Lock: sha1:4FFan00vlFnvEbNmsEsYM68krpU= X-Newsreader: MesNews/1.08.06.00-gb X-ICQ: 1701145376 joes explained : > Am Sat, 11 Jan 2025 09:09:34 -0500 schrieb FromTheRafters: >> joes laid this down on his screen : >>> Am Sat, 11 Jan 2025 11:04:56 +0100 schrieb WM: >>>> On 11.01.2025 01:28, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>> On 1/10/25 4:48 PM, WM wrote: >>>>>> On 10.01.2025 21:08, Jim Burns wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Where OUR infinityⁿᵒᵗᐧᵂᴹ "doesn't work", >>>>>>> it's you who's saying it doesn't work, >>>>>> You are inconsistent. You claim that all natural numbers are an >>>>>> invariable set. But when all elements are doubled then your set >>>>>> grows, >>>>>> showing it is not invariable. That is nonsense. >>>>> But the set doesn't grow. >>>>> Which element is in the doubled set that wasn't there in the first >>>>> place? >>>> The number of elements remains constant. All odd numbers of ℕ are >>>> deleted. That implies that new even numbers are added. >>> Nope. This is all just your conception of Aleph_0 as finite. It does >>> not behave like that. All countable sets are bijective to each other. >> All of the smallest inductive countably infinite sets. :) > If that was a joke, I didn't get it. Please enlighten me? Well, {a,b,c} is a countable set. Also, {w,x,y,z} is a countable set. these two countable sets do not have a bijection. "All countable sets are bijective to each other." is overstated.