Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Zen Cycle Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Bradley Wiggins Date: Wed, 14 May 2025 14:37:53 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 41 Message-ID: <1002nu1$2hoke$2@dont-email.me> References: <1001ktb$114t3$19@dont-email.me> <3af92kpbgfck039fa31em0hk30r0kd2q4c@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 14 May 2025 20:37:54 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="37b6da2e591984a872ad10d429e1d6d4"; logging-data="2679438"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/xEQ5Li4F+GPd45iSK2qmq7P6meXe9luM=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:TvnNZBIo7X80H+aY9p1Q6m6d2No= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <3af92kpbgfck039fa31em0hk30r0kd2q4c@4ax.com> On 5/14/2025 12:16 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: > On Wed, 14 May 2025 04:40:10 -0400, zen cycle > wrote: > >> On 5/13/2025 7:47 PM, cyclintom wrote: >>> On Tue May 13 17:01:33 2025 Roger Merriman wrote: >>>> AMuzi wrote: >>>>> https://www.rfi.fr/en/sports/20250513-cycling-great-wiggins-admits-cocaine-addiction-after-retiring >>>> >>>> He?s unfortunately being having a hard time, and has I believe been abused >>>> as a child which doesn?t excuse but perhaps explains but he?s certainly in >>>> a downward spiral. > >>> Roger, addiction is entirely voluntary. Cocain is one of the easier addictive drugs to bnreak free of. So if he keeps his addiction it is on him. >> >> > > Actually, Tom is generally correct, as long as the circumstances > follow those in the study. For Bradley Wiggins, I didn't see any of > the racial, ethnic, or social problems mentioned that might cause > problems. If there were any, there's no way I could determine if they > were "voluntary". > > "Probability and predictors of remission from lifetime nicotine, > alcohol, cannabis, or cocaine dependence" (Nov 2010) > > TL:DR Summary: > > > "Life-time cumulative probability estimates of dependence remission > were 83.7% for nicotine, 90.6% for alcohol, 97.2% for cannabis and > 99.2% for cocaine. Half of the cases of nicotine, alcohol, cannabis > and cocaine dependence remitted approximately 26, 14, 6 and 5 years > after dependence onset, respectively." > I was eyerolling in reference to the "entirely voluntary" part. Certain individuals have a higher risk of addiction than others. It isn't something that one can just quit because they want to. -- Add xx to reply