Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Your Name Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2025 10:05:31 +1300 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 35 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2025 22:05:32 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="3733e864a08cee5653e0af8941a00ab3"; logging-data="2740229"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/1pSJGMgQxdYD7xLP+q803pz7/5ikJZVY=" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:Ts7j2+JB4nx0JWQHYxFmEswyEMc= On 2025-03-26 12:36:33 +0000, CrudeSausage said: > On 2025-03-26 03:40, Chris wrote: >> Joel wrote: >>> Chris wrote: >>>> >>>>> the [Linux] OS us[ed] swap, when main RAM and cache >>>>> saturated the 32 GB. >>>> >>>> That doesn't actually mean you *need* 32GB. >>> >>> Oh sure, I'll just rely on swap! Great, back to the 1990s, heh. >> >> The OS will always try to maximise RAM usage regardless of how much you >> have. In and of itself is not evidence of the need for that amount of RAM. >> >> In modern systems there's no noticeable difference when dipping into swap. >> Certainly not when flushing caches. PCI SSD and NVMe hardware are a world >> away from slow spinners of the 90s. >> >> Despite building your own PC (big deal!) you seem quite ignorant on how it >> works. Sounds like a Mac would actually be better for you. lol. > > I have to admit that I find it strange how Windows 11 uses 10GB of RAM > to run the exact same software I use on Linux. In Linux, having Brave, > Betterbird and Telegram open needs about 3GB. I understand that the > operating system will use up as much RAM as it can but how the heck do > those three applications need 10GB? Because nobody at Microsoft has actual programming ability. Windows has been and always will be an ugly, useless, and highly inefficient operating systyem sold by a conman who simply steals or buys out every product they have ever made, from MS-DOS onwards.