Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Chris Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Apple requires too much money and sacrifice of control Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2025 18:53:15 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2025 19:53:16 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="3651cd41fb5c1985beb80ba253dac014"; logging-data="4151946"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+A69UGv1PiM5w3Rc6AD9wTIYfXEDrSDCk=" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPhone/iPod Touch) Cancel-Lock: sha1:OHrQH2OlwqBqArTxJx+S8SYIjcQ= sha1:gCoZQSQy9lJmbccwu7CMQ2/IfCY= CrudeSausage wrote: > On 2025-03-25 00:00, Johnny LaRue wrote: >> In article , >> Joel wrote: >> >>> A Mac mini would be $1400. What I could build for that is >>> unbelievable. Getting macOS to me isn't so amazing, Linux does OK. I >>> think Apple is like M$ selling products to high-end users first. >> >> Yes, Apple costs more than Dell. And BMWs cost more than Chevys. And >> steak costs more than chicken. >> >> What is your point? >> >> But what is the alleged "sacrifice of control"? What does that even >> mean? My Macs are somehow "out of control"? > > He's suggesting that in addition to Apple devices being more or less a > walled garden (not really since you can install from outside the Apple > Store even though the operating system makes that needlessly annoying > for some applications like Betterbird), you lose control in that your > hardware is abandoned after a number of years. On an x86-64 machine, > this isn't a problem since you can go ahead and install Linux. However, > once Apple decides not to supply you with MacOS anymore, you're stuck. > You /CAN/ continue to use it, but the lack of updates might make its use > a danger if you are connecting to the Internet. You can also update via OCLP.