Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Chris M. Thomasson" Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: The non-existence of "dark numbers" Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2025 13:19:00 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <555d7095-81a0-4576-adac-f2aa8327f4df@att.net> <8397e10f-36cb-43c6-8d2b-e4d20809ee83@att.net> <4b83f1c2-c16f-40b4-a5b6-68991e3c230c@att.net> <440ff556-a769-482e-ad2a-064af14c5781@att.net> <369e62e9-93e6-4256-96ed-f9d8489aa017@att.net> <5004d400-7c2e-4d59-ad66-5986a416ef89@att.net> <411d5c64-ddb6-4655-a264-2149d054ff7d@att.net> <94fa0364396567adcb4e87213ba7392c45ed8a1d@i2pn2.org> <5355732a3f22baa4483b5718dd1c74f90362f653@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2025 21:19:01 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="fbc29af1887b2a280464b9343f8aeb59"; logging-data="1067385"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/eXjdpaWqo0d2wV5hYVFFBRiOlw+8sAGk=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:x85a/H+6v8jOi9G83bO2navse6s= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: On 3/27/2025 12:50 PM, WM wrote: > Am 27.03.2025 um 15:58 schrieb joes: >> Am Wed, 26 Mar 2025 21:09:03 +0100 schrieb WM: > >>>> At finite steps, but not in the limit. >>> Countability is proved without limits. Bijections are one-to-one without >>> limit. >> I have no idea what you are talking about. What can be proved to be >> countable without resorting to limits? > > Limits deviate from countability. > >> I didn't say anything about >> bijections not being one-to-one, nor about them having limits??? >> The transformation from the initial to the final matrix can not be >> achieved in finitely many steps. > > That is true but contradicts Cantor's theory according to which every > pair has a finite index. Every finite index n has only n-1 predecessors. Iirc, Cantor Pairing works with any unsigned integer.