Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott Newsgroups: comp.theory,comp.ai.philosophy,sci.logic Subject: Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2025 09:58:42 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 48 Message-ID: <1021k32$3327l$9@dont-email.me> References: <1021ii4$3327l$6@dont-email.me> <1021jls$32035$1@dont-email.me> <1021jr1$3327l$7@dont-email.me> <1021jvn$32035$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2025 16:58:43 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8b5701e9588c79f836e89c5073f428a2"; logging-data="3246325"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19c+IvsXB4/FY9RvgAALjDJ" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:CAsJfjVMUVnhhI7Qf+2YkEcjLrA= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <1021jvn$32035$2@dont-email.me> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250607-2, 6/7/2025), Outbound message On 6/7/2025 9:56 AM, dbush wrote: > On 6/7/2025 10:54 AM, olcott wrote: >> On 6/7/2025 9:51 AM, dbush wrote: >>> On 6/7/2025 10:32 AM, olcott wrote: >>>> The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence >>>> of DDD emulated by HHH from DDD emulated by HHH1. >>>> >>>> int main() >>>> { >>>>    HHH1(DDD); >>>> } >>>> >>>> Shows that DDD emulated by HHH and DDD emulated by >>>> HHH1 diverges as soon as HHH begins emulating itself >>>> emulating DDD. >>>> >>>> *From the execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shown below* >>>> DDD emulated by HHH1              DDD emulated by HHH >>>> [00002183] push ebp               [00002183] push ebp >>>> [00002184] mov ebp,esp            [00002184] mov ebp,esp >>>> [00002186] push 00002183 ; DDD    [00002186] push 00002183 ; DDD >>>> [0000218b] call 000015c3 ; HHH    [0000218b] call 000015c3 ; HHH >>>> *HHH1 emulates DDD once then HHH emulates DDD once, these match* >>>> >>>> The next instruction of DDD that HHH emulates is at >>>> the machine address of 00002183. >>>> >>>> The next instruction of DDD that HHH1 emulates is at >>>> the machine address of 00002190. >>> >>> False. >>> >>> The next instruction of DDD that both HHH and HHH1 emulates is at the >>> machine address of 000015c3, >> >> *That is not an instruction of DDD* >> *That is not an instruction of DDD* >> *That is not an instruction of DDD* >> *That is not an instruction of DDD* > > In other words, you're not operating on algorithms. In other words you are not actually paying any attention. -- Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer