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Failed to connect to MySQL: (1203) User howardkn already has more than 'max_user_connections' active connectionsPath: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: zen cycle Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: What the Constitution, Supreme Court say about 'due process' for Trump deportees: Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2025 05:37:24 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 34 Message-ID: <101p44k$3ua51$12@dont-email.me> References: <101nrs6$9s8i$1@dont-email.me> <101o6eu$coaq$1@dont-email.me> <101p3am$muti$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2025 11:37:24 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="d5ad3538cb8b70e89716c83afff6a853"; logging-data="4139169"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/YUKHkqcMcCvePADbuhFhERz9mBjcAHIc=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:21kjkD7SkDRwYmzN1tfGe+zlGrg= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <101p3am$muti$1@dont-email.me> On 6/4/2025 5:23 AM, Rolf Mantel wrote: > Am 04.06.2025 um 10:31 schrieb Catrike Ryder: >> On Wed, 4 Jun 2025 01:10:55 -0000 (UTC), Beej Jorgensen >> wrote: >> >>> In article , >>> Catrike Ryder  wrote: >>>> I'm neither in the USA illegally, nor have I committed any crimes, so >>>> you needn't worry. >>> >>> I'm not worried that you're in the US illegally or have committed any >>> crimes. I'm worried that the government will *say* you're in the country >>> illegally and then ship you off. >>> >>> There is no law that says the government cannot say you are in the >>> country illegally. The only thing protecting you is the fact that you >>> get a hearing. >>> >>> You clearly trust the government far more than I do to be willing to >>> waive this right. >> >> US citizens should indeed get a hearing. > > Do you mean "people who claim to be US citizens" should get a hearing to > verify whether they are indeed US citizens? He should, but he doesn't. He believes - under the current administration - that onus probandi is on the defendant. With regards to this administration and their cult of followers, it's now "guilty until proven innocent", with the caveat that they'll be shipped out of the country before they have a chance to prove it. Once a democrat is back in the oval office, he'll change his opinion and accuse them of gestapo tactics.