Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Heathfield Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2025 11:12:22 +0100 Organization: Fix this later Lines: 45 Message-ID: <10430m8$3f20g$1@dont-email.me> References: <103jmr5$3h0jc$1@dont-email.me> <103k0sc$2q38$1@news.muc.de> <103k1mc$3j4ha$1@dont-email.me> <103lfn1$ml0$1@dont-email.me> <103m813$6dce$1@dont-email.me> <103ol2u$raq9$1@dont-email.me> <103onmp$rq7e$1@dont-email.me> <103r0ce$1esb9$1@dont-email.me> <103rhf6$1hc53$8@dont-email.me> <0c50a8ee4efb36cef4271674792a090125187f9d@i2pn2.org> <103s40o$1m8dn$1@dont-email.me> <93801c0e35ee58f2673bea24c614e2fc683b55ce@i2pn2.org> <103sutf$1utb9$1@dont-email.me> <3cbdc10609ef73de4d91adaa33cded8cef5117f6@i2pn2.org> <103ufqg$292c0$3@dont-email.me> <17a2593ee804665b9f412c522a6f64c7618c202f@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2025 12:12:26 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8591ab9a3790e77e6ee2eeb9269cecbe"; logging-data="3639312"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19eZZ1Oe0NVcRZxeEsH7aHuqXeliQQnpzSrvYa7S1QhZg==" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:eoz2dswc+adgs43UrvWoOUUOLkY= In-Reply-To: <17a2593ee804665b9f412c522a6f64c7618c202f@i2pn2.org> Content-Language: en-GB On 01/07/2025 02:10, Richard Damon wrote: > On 6/30/25 1:00 PM, olcott wrote: >> One line of C source-code is a C statement. If we didn't already have all the proof we needed that Mr O doesn't know spit about C, it's right there in that claim. Counter-examples are trivial to construct. A line of C source code may indeed represent a single C statement, but it could also represent several, or none at all. The idea of a 1-to-1 correspondence is simply misconceived. #include int main(void) { puts("Hello, world!"); return 0; } 6 lines of C source-code, and only three statements. Line 1: no statements Line 2: no statements Line 3: no statements Line 4: a small fraction of a compound statement Line 5: two statements Line 6: closing off that compound statement See? Three lines of C source code with no statements. And the best that can be said for Mr Olcott is that the other three have one statement per line *on average*! And Mr Olcott loves to tell experienced C programmers that they don't know the language. Kinda cute, eh? -- Richard Heathfield Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999 Sig line 4 vacant - apply within