Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Zen Cycle Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: What the Constitution, Supreme Court say about 'due process' for Trump deportees: Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2025 15:53:53 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 80 Message-ID: <101q88i$7nm9$8@dont-email.me> References: <101hsku$26lq0$6@dont-email.me> <101i16r$2ados$1@dont-email.me> <101lkqh$3kj7o$1@dont-email.me> <101mrjn$aqa$1@dont-email.me> <101n4p9$2sls$1@dont-email.me> <101nkr7$7nm8$1@dont-email.me> <101nnvp$8qi5$1@dont-email.me> <101p3nr$3ua51$11@dont-email.me> <101piht$rahk$5@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2025 21:53:54 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="02a2a7f2bf918c939e9c8f01a43b7478"; logging-data="253641"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX198HWlS98ZMCNs4eDWc6bdgmdzlGcAVbSQ=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:JTAuajEqdEay2hx09eVc3uhsc/o= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <101piht$rahk$5@dont-email.me> On 6/4/2025 9:43 AM, AMuzi wrote: > On 6/4/2025 4:30 AM, zen cycle wrote: >> On 6/3/2025 5:03 PM, AMuzi wrote: >>> On 6/3/2025 3:10 PM, Zen Cycle wrote: >>>> On 6/3/2025 11:36 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>>>> On 6/3/2025 8:59 AM, AMuzi wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> There was a false statement inserted into a filing in re Kilmar >>>>>> Abrego Garcia that he had been deported in error. The Justice >>>>>> Department employee who added that was fired the next morning and >>>>>> the filing emended... >>>>> >>>>> Got a citation or other evidence for that claim? And what did the >>>>> courts say about this issue? And where is Mr. Garcia now? >>>> >>>> Right, The government narrative kept changing, coming up with >>>> different excuses, right down to trump retweeting a photo shopped >>>> (fake) image of Mr. Garcia with gang tattoos. Once they were unable >>>> to convince anyone with any brains that he had no criminal past, >>>> they brought out a domestic abuse complaint from ten years ago - >>>> complete bullshit as well. >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> As Monday morning's NYT for example, whose front page did not >>>>>> cover the immolation of live US citizens, including a Holocaust >>>>>> survivor, in Boulder by an illegal jihadi screaming 'free >>>>>> palestine.' Deemed not interesting enough by editorial staff. >>>>> >>>>> I don't get a print edition of NYT; but your complaint seems to be >>>>> that eight people getting various degrees of burns did not get >>>>> enough attention, despite it being on every news outlet. It looks >>>>> to me like NYT has since done many articles on the incident and its >>>>> implications. Are you trying to say NYT does sufficiently protest >>>>> antisemitism? >>>>> >>>>> And BTW, what happened was despicable. As you know, I'm firmly >>>>> against attempts to harm or kill groups of innocent people. But >>>>> "immolation of live US citizens" is more than a little exaggerated. >>>>> It usually means burning to death. I gather only one person out of >>>>> the eight was seriously burned. >>>>> >>>>> There's no excuse for the attack, but you can slightly relax your >>>>> grip on your own pearls! >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> At his previous 2019 hearing, after his deportation order, the >>> removal was stayed as the judge found that his MS-13 gang membership >>> put him at risk in his old neighborhood controlled by a competing gang. >>> >>> (details are messy as he had lived both in El Salvador and in Guatemala) >>> >>> https://tennesseestar.com/news/immigration-judges-2019- order-found- >>> kilmar-abrego-garcia-subject-to-removal-by- deportation-but-granted- >>> withholding-of-removal-to- guatemala-though-referencing-el-salvador/ >>> tpappert/2025/04/22/ >>> >>> The prior administration also denied assistance to Tennessee State >>> Patrol in 2022 when they stopped him in the car of a known trafficker >>> with a load of smuggled illegals while speeding with no valid >>> license. FBI directed TSP to not detain him. >>> >>> https://tennesseestar.com/justice/tennessee-highway- patrol-confirms- >>> biden-era-fbi-told-officers-to-release- kilmar-abrego-garcia- >>> during-2022- traffic-stop-despite- speeding-and-license-violations- >>> to/ tpappert/2025/04/17/ >>> >>   Uncorroborated allegations.."sources said"...."two (unnamed) judges >> determined he is likely to be a member of the Central American gang, >> Mara Salvatrucha"....iow, more trump ICE/DOJ lies to cover their assess. > > > The judge who, in 2019, stayed deportation to Guatemala _due to his gang > affiliation_ wrote his decision. It was not appealed. > Got a link? I couldn't find anything except trump DOJ heresay. -- Add xx to reply